help me make sonos better


you all know sonos does not serve the purity of detail/refinement market but it does do a fabulous job satisfying wife, kids, and even serious listener's who are working on "honey do" lists...

but there must be a way to make it better. read about the cullen mods and external dacs and am ready to dive into the water but for the life of me can't find the ultimate pool. can/will someone lead me to the right place? what and how much $ would be nice to know as well. many thanks....
bobf1717
"I do not have the breath of experience to generalize..." I meant BREADTH of experience, not some strange metaphor involving breathing experiences. :)

Bob - Yes, OP is "original poster." As for your system, it is excellent, and far better than I was assuming in my previous post. In light of that, I would say that you would certainly hear significant improvements with the Pace Car. Whether it is your best option for getting the most from Sonos is another question. I think it depends on the dac you are considering. Given the amount of jitter inherent in Sonos, if I were you, I would want bulletproof jitter rejection in my dac. Short of that, I would seriously consider a reclocker like the Pace Car.

Soundgasm, as you hinted earlier, you may want to try the modest Monarchy reclocker, mated with the DacMagic, and test them on both your modded and unmodded players, - you may be pleasantly delighted. You can always move up the ladder with options others have suggested.

Likewise, would be interested to hear your feedback.
That's exactly what I'm thinking, Edgejazz. I have an email out to Monarchy to confirm that the DIP Classic will accept a 96kHz signal from the Cullen-modded Sonos. It looks like that's possible with an 'upgrade kit.'

I'll definitely report back - this is the thread that I was looking for when I started on this arcane odyssey months ago.
this is what i think i'm hearing from ya'll:
first, a re-clocker for sonos is essential to get rid of jitter, which is assumed to be slang for another "like" kind word! second, an external dac. therefore the math/progession goes like this:

source (sonos)--to--reclocker--to--either back to sonos or directly--to--dac--to--pre--to--amp--to--speaker--to--ears. is this correct? should a beer be had thru each progression?

o.k. if this is close to being a truism, then doesn't it make sense for there to be ONE product between the sonos and the pre that can do the trick, or have i missed picking up on this in all your previous responses? there comes a time when all the gear starts to make buying a bigger house a serious consideration! and i'm at the age where i'm supposed to be downsizing my life....

last, how much would this little widget cost? time for a beer....and it's only 8 am!
I tried the Dac Magic on my system and while it helped, It did not get near the quality I was after. Hoping the Bryston does better.