How Do Amps Affect Soundstage?


I'm not that technically strong on audio yet, so please refrain from mockery on this....

My DAC, premamp, and amp combo (all tube) throw a nice soundstage.  If I substitute (at least some) solid state stereo amps, soundstage is constricted.  If the amp is basically just increasing the signal that it is receiving from the preamp, I don't get how the size and shape of the presentation is altered materially from what the preamp is delivering. (I get that the signal could get distorted, etc.).  How does the amp play such role?  And do monoblocks enjoy any design advantage in maintaining the soundstage received?  Thanks.

mathiasmingus

It depends….

My experience is the amp can make a difference - transparency, definition and dynamic improvements can improve sound stage.  A good source is critical….
 

 

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Unfortunately, it all matters. All components including the amp. Speakers may be the biggest determinant.

 

I can comment on amps. For a year and a half I had both an Audio Research Reference 160 stereo and a pair of 160 monoblocks. So, identical amplifiers… just one spread into two boxes. The most notable difference was imaging. The soundstage was wider and much deeper with the monoblocks and hence the images presented more three dimensionally in a larger sound space.

What I heard was confirmed by a couple other folks that had an opportunity to experience it (different amps). I suspect a lot of it comes from a lower noise floor. More quiet allows you to hear more subtle cues in the sound.

 

 

amplifiers are part of the distortion equation. especially the amplifier<->speaker relationship. if the amplifiers have headroom in the ability to keep the speaker linear, then the subtle ambient clues and musical threads that occupy the soundstage can be fully rendered. obviously acoustics play their role too. it’s not just the amp<->speaker by themselves.

if the amplifier cannot fully control the speaker then the details of the music break down and the soundstage becomes a mess to one degree or another. you are suddenly hearing individual speakers as sound, individual drivers as sound, and not as a musical whole. it’s the distortion that is causing the music to turn to just sound. the distortion reminds us that it’s reproduced, and not real.

this is the biggest cause of the music sounding hard or flat, or the soundstage collapsing. lack of cohesion between the amps and the speakers.

when you hear a system that can do large scale music with ease, when the music breathes, and can keep together and rise and fall with the musical flow, the amplifier has to be right as part of the package. it’s the ’heart’ of what you are hearing. for a recording to be presented completely the amps have to be right.

mono blocks in and of themselves are not significant. there are stereo amplifiers at the highest levels of amplifiers. however; mono blocks can deliver more performance within some design approaches  as then you have each channel optimized. but mono blocks or stereo chassis does not tell you good, better, best by itself. too many degrees of good.