Compact ~20WPC Tube Amp


I should say 20WPC or more....

I’ve been trying to use a 8WPC 300B SET (Sun Audio) with some vintage bass reflex studio monitors from the 70s (96dB) and it’s clear that I need a bit more power. Everything sounds really awesome but the highs will distort at anything beyond low-medium volume which has been fine but I want to play a little louder sometimes!

Space is limited so I need a stereo amp or maybe small monos are possible.

dhcod

agree with jasonbourne52 seek out a ST-70 properly refurbished.  I bought a new custom build recently from retroaudio on US audiomart for peanuts just to have a tube amp to rotate and it's more enjoyable in my system than my previous RM-10.  He's restored hundreds of Dynacos for decades and knows his craft.  He does ST-35's as well.

http://glowinthedarkaudio.com/chris-keller-st70.html

@atmasphere

Based on your comments your speakers are nowhere near efficient enough to work with your SET.

Which leads me to suspect that the 96 db sensitivity rating is exaggerated or (More possibly) the speaker’s impedance curve and load just isn’t suitable for an SET 300b.

My speakers are 94 db but a 14 ohm impedance with an appropriately designed/damped woofer to not require much amplifier DF (Damping Factor). They literally sing with my 300b SET mono blocks and replaced the previous 100 watt amplifier.

So, much depends upon speaker design and intended use.Push pull tube amplifiers will usually have lower output impedance and thus higher DF. Also generally they utilize some degree of NFB which increases DF.

Most SET amplifiers are zero NFB (Or very low) and will require different/compatible speaker loads. OP’s speakers just need a good quality push pull amplifier and they’ll do well.

Charles

Which leads me to suspect that the 96 db sensitivity rating is exaggerated or (More possibly) the speaker’s impedance curve and load just isn’t suitable for an SET 300b.

@charles1dad That wouldn't surprise me at all. The impedance thing is why I wrote this article since so many speakers that are rated 8 Ohms actually have 4 Ohm woofer arrays and simply aren't meant to be driven by zero feedback tube amps! That was part of why I convinced Israel to try making speakers with higher impedances. It doesn't help that speaker manufacturers seem to often overstate their numbers as well.

The Sun Audio 300B amp, if I’m not mistaken, uses two 6SN7 stages to drive the 300Bs and is the main issue with the amplifier distorting prematurely. The 300B and many other DHTs will draw grid current long before their power rating is reached and will "slew" causing distortion (the coupling cap is discharged faster than the driver can charge it leading to rolled off highs and sloppy bass). This is really common with all of the 2 stage 6SN7/300B amps out there. The 300B really needs a stout drive capable of kicking it in the @$$ to really allow it to open up. While a push pull tube amplifier will certainly give you the merits of more power, if you’re looking to stick with the overall sonic character of a single-ended amplifier, there are other options out there. My single-ended KT120 for example, with a solid 6SN7 SRPP driver will sound more like a 35 WPC amplifier, but can still produce 18 watts per channel with excellent cone control/damping. However it does use NFB as non DHT tubes really do not sound good without it unless they are "triode-strapped", which is an inherent form of local feedback. With most SETs the driver is the amplifier’s downfall- not the power rating of the amp, or the 300B. 

 

Best regards, Aric

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