Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy


"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

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@kota1 , posting a link to a personal report of what someone thinks they heard does not prove your point. If the reviewer was truly curious, or fully believed their conclusion, they would have gotten two DACs, one burned in, and one not, and compared them in blind test.

@crymeanaudioriver and yet ASR is not doing any blind tests.

I will say the arrogance and condescending attitudes reflected by you @amir_asr @prof I would not take advise from any of you, nor will I ever look at the ASR site. Mostly because the equipment being tested is low scale and not my, well thing. I do not shop at Best Buy.

I also find the entire ASR crowd quite offensive and see why you fit right is over there.

Why don't you saunter on back. 

I am no expert and I do use some measurements as a baseline however what you and your ilk miss is that audio like most luxury items are also an emotional purchase. No one here at this forum is saying measurement do not have a place but it is only one leg in the triangle it is not the final chapter. The system and how it sounds is the sum of all the parts, that is the ultimate test and I have not seen a test by Amir of a complete system Pre, Amp, DAC, Cables, Source. Think those Dutch boys have though.  

So I am going to leave you and Amir Army to it. You have done nothing but make the divide even greater amongst the camps here. Arrogance and conceit are not going to sway minds nor opinions.  I will leave you and your 19 users names to argue among yourselves.  

Time to listen to some music as that is what this is all about. 

 

If anybody here with REW wants to get busy measuring stuff start with the room. I am shocked to see members measuring components and then leaving money on the table wasted because those components won’t provide the best experience without getting the room right. The video below may not work for you but it worked for me. I shopped for the treatments, exchanged e-mails with Anthony and BAM got a fantastic result. I noticed even some of the "professionals" posting here skipped this fundamental step. DSP helps, but DSP + a great room = amazing. BTW, room treatments can be covered with acoustically transparent fabric to make it look as good as it sounds:

 

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I will say the arrogance and condescending attitudes reflected by you @amir_asr @prof I would not take advise from any of you, nor will I ever look at the ASR site.

 

You can say Amir has been slightly condescending, but given his treatment, probably far less than he should be. My condescension has circled around twisting of words, false truths, and outright lies. I am very much biting my tongue. @prof on the other hand has been a complete gentleman.

 

Mostly because the equipment being tested is low scale and not my, well thing. I do not shop at Best Buy.

 

I will say one condescending thing. You may want to pick up a dictionary and learn what the word condescending means, as you seem to believe it applies to others, but not yourself.