Where to go from here?


I have a treated dedicated room with pmc ci140 speakers. So my room and speakers are done. Now i need to get the front end up to par. The pmc speakers are being fed by a denon 3700h to monolith amplifier.  I rather not get hung up on which brand is best but what makes a bigger positive improvement? I can purchade a reference dac with volume like a weiss 501 or tambaqui, or i could buy a quality integrated like a mcintosh ma9500 or hegel 590. If i get the weiss or tambuqui it will be awhile until my wallet cools off, so i would keep the monolith amp for a few years. If i get a quality integrated it would be a few yrs until i got a reference seperate dac. Sooooo......what the heck makes sense and which would make the biggest improvement?  Thanks

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+1ghdprentice!

I used to have what I thought was a killer 5 channel surround system with also great 2 channel stereo.  Fortunately my processor broke and led me to exploring 2 channel only.  So much better AND it images so well it is (for me) perfect for the video we watch.

Also totally agree the pre amp adds a lot to a two channel set up.  I am not a Macintosh fan and find them warm and dull sounding compared to my Audionet stuff and much other stuff as well.  The Tambaqui I do have and it is amazing, but do not use its volume control as it strips bits and you lose resolution.  I have tried several nice DACs without a Preamp and always found it  better with a Preamp.

 

For me, if you want an integrated, get one without a DAC so you can find your way independently.  Integrated + Streamer +DAC  or Streamer  + DAC + Preamp + amp(s).

A consideration to keep your cost down, then be able to expand down the road if you desire would be the separate 2 channel Parasound ZPre3 preamp, which has HT pass through. As your Denon has the preouts necessary: ‘front’ preouts to the ZPre3 main input, then out to your amp. In pass though mode, the Denon will still use your amp for HT, just as you do now.

At that point, you could experiment with various DAC’s over time, connected to the Parasound ZPre3 for seperate 2 channel music bypassing the Denon entirely. 

This would provide a lot of options moving forward. 

I also have a combo HT and 2 channel setup in my living room, but all 2 channel is separate from the HT AVR completely.  I had a Parasound Zpre in my main system, but now doing the same through my fairly new Belles Aria Signature preamp with HT pass through. A step-up no doubt, but my Parasound ZPre3 is now in my bedroom system, and don’t really want to sell it….a great little preamp.

The av will be out of the 2 channel system entirely. I am shooting for detailed and musical. I agree ghdprentice.  I much prefer  engaging music than just hyped up sound details.  I can wrap my head around seperates. I have an av closet so i have the space. Another bonus is that changing one piece at a time lets you focus on a components effect. One piece at a time is easier to budget.

Also i know i prefer neutral. Any gear that i have tried and liked did not emphasize either the bass nor the  treble. Also i agree with some reviewers that entry cost gear is detailed but its a card board cutout of the sound. I get that. Where is the noise after a sound is played on cheap digital? Each dollar more spent seems to get a little more natural reverb and decay instead of an abrupt end of information after a note is played or sung.

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https://pmc-speakers.com/products/professional/ci-series/ci140

if that is your speaker set in your room, mounted on wall, you should not spend anywhere near as much on ancillary gear (mola mola, hegel h590, big mcintosh and so on)

my suggestion is get a hegel h190 to stream, or get a nad m33 and use dirac to get the room and speakers as good as possible given the limitation you have designed in by choosing an on-wall speaker

spending more will not yield much sonic benefit in my opinion