What type of wire for dedicated 20A AC lines?


I’m about to have two 20A dedicated lines installed. What type of wire should I use? I know there are differences of opinion on whether to use 10 AWG or 12 AWG, however the link below makes a great case for using even 8 AWG solid core copper on longer runs like mine will be (50 ft), to ensure a lower resistance, lower voltage drop over the long run, and therefore more access to instantaneous current for my Gryphon Diablo 300. The wire would need to be stepped down to 10 AWG to connect with the receptacle. The article actually states that the thickness of the wire is more important than the fact that it is dedicated…

Assuming I want to follow this advice, which again makes sense to me, where would I find such wire to give to my electrician?

 

nyev

This is legit comedy gold...

A gentleman I work with holds the Bell Labs patent on high speed data lines with negative phase cancelation. AKA, twisted pair ethernet wire. You’re at a low enough frequency that the advice given on phase cancelation doesn’t matter. It isn’t relevant. I did grounding and bonding in telecom for years, none of what you're saying above will work. It will not cause blacker blacks, deeper blues, or crisper highs.

Spend the money on a new record or cartridge. 

Your recommendations to twist and cross wires won’t help significantly if the lines are linked back on a common buss bar in the panel box, or share a common ground (they do.) To truly isolate your signal, you'd need a filter bank off the pole (we used massive banks of lead acid batteries), float your ground, and re-establish it elsewhere. You're not doing that in residential construction. 

 

8AWG will give you no more current than 12AWG of the amp doesn’t need it. It doesn’t if it’s not 240v. Nothing sold 120v in the US exceeds 15A draw. For a reason. It doesn’t meet the National Electric Code.

 

If it’s continuous duty above 15a, they make the device 240v. Small surges (transients or power up Cap "filling") are fine on 12/2, and for big amps, they should have a timed/gradual circuit to handle in-rush current.

 

Go to Lowes. Buy 12/2 romex. Buy a decent plug (Leviton premium, hospital grade if you want it to grip harder), be done.

If you have noise in your circuit, fix the ground on the offensive item (usually a motor.)

If you still have noise, buy an amp with a better power supply design. Only time I ever had noise existing on an actual AC circuit, from the pole, was at a friend’s house near a 60kW AM station’s antenna array. I doubt you’re in the same boat.

So funny how contentious certain unexpected areas can be with our hobby! I’ve seen more than a few smart people all with strong points (at least to a layman like me) pointing to why lower gauge is better, or not. And, it’s amusing how ridiculous each side thinks the other is being!

In my case it doesn’t really matter as my electrician will install 10AWG no problem. Again, a no brainer for the few extra bucks.

Also, you are not quite right on amplifiers not drawing more than 15A, when talking about instantaneous, or sometimes referred to as “peak” current.

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/understanding-peak-current-in-amplifiers-and-ac-power-distributors

@Nyev my 2 cents would be... if you are going to the trouble to provide low impedance AC mains, please rethink any "power conditioner". The power supply of your sweet amp will absolutely have all the power conditioning it requires... I run my sources with conditioning, and earth grounded. I use a bridge rectifier circuit ( N. Pass circuit)  for earth grounding on my amps which only activates on short. I would consult Gryphon on grounding scheme. 

Don't worry about an isolated circuit.  Just listen to the music, that's all that counts.