The sound quality from DACs - is it all the same?


I've been talking to my cousin brother about sound quality. He is a self-proclaimed expert audiophile. He says that Audio Science Review has all of the answers I will need regarding audio products.

In particular, he says an inexpensive DAC from any Chinese company will do better than the expensive stuff. He says fancy audio gear is a waste of money because the data is already bit-perfect.  All DAC chips sound the same. Am I being mislead? 

He also said that any DAC over $400 is a waste of money. Convincing marketing is at play here, he says.

He currently owns a Topping L30 headphone amplifier and D30 Pro DAC. He uses Sennheiser HD 569 headphones to listen to music.  I'm not sure what to think of them. I will report my findings after listening one day! (likely soon, once I get some free time)

- Jack 

 

 

jackhifiguy

All DACs sound the same, a cactus needle works as well as a moving coil stylus, all turntables go around and around, all amplifiers sound the same, tube preamps are just the same as solid state, and Bose makes the best speakers. Have I missed anything?

 

Yes you missed something, sound does not exist, only abstract wave numbers exist...

And even that does not exist ....

When we die it is finished ...

Anyway we are all deaf...

Between the nothingness where we come from and the nothingness where we go, happily our measuring tool work well even for the deaf people...

We only need eyes for the dial reading but tomorrow we will need only A.I.

😁😊

 

«Humans are very overestimated »-Anonymus historian of technology and evolution which wrote many booksellers

«I never overestimated my public enough »-Groucho Marx 🤓

 

«We dont need ears to evaluate sound, a sharp knife is sharp but not necessarily a "knife"»- Anonymus sophist

«Most clowns are not clown»-Harpo Marx

 

What were those characters in Ibsen's Peer Gynt called again?

 

"What is the difference between troll and man?"

None which is measurable......

I saw advice in this thread and agree with it. Go to a dealer, compare and listen for yourself.

Given that DACs contain an analog section, it's pretty clear that they can indeed sound quite different, if that's the intent of the designer. I mean you can tweak, or even omit, the reconstruction filter if you like the way out of band aliasing sounds.Wouldn't be the first time.

The question is, do you want one that *has* a distinct sound of it's own? Or one with the most accurate reproduction? The former will be a form of fixed tone control you may not want if you're an equipment junkie and change components frequently. Maybe it fits with the next gear iteration, maybe not. This type of "voicing" is one likely culprit for what I consider to be the "system synergy" canard.

Whichever floats your boat.