Can You Hear Me Now


In an interview with Laurence Borden of Dagogo, Dr Earl Geddes talked about the ability of people to really have golden ears. In his work at Ford, he tried to gauge how good the ten member golden ear panel was. I will let him tell you his findings. “For the most part the study concluded that this panel was “not capable.” In other words their judgments could not be relied upon to be statistically stable. That said, there were two members of the ten who were capable, so it was possible. But the real point here is that someone is not a good judge of sound quality just because they think that they are – all ten members would have claimed that they were audiophiles and good judges of sound quality.
After several more studies along these same lines, I came to conclude that the more someone claimed to be a “golden ear” the less likely it was that they actually were.”  
That got me thinking: how many of our members would belong to the group of eight and how many would be with the two who could really hear. Interesting reading. The full interview can be found here:
https://www.dagogo.com/an-interview-with-dr-earl-geddes-of-gedlee-llc/
N.B. Dr. Earl Geddes is one of the pioneers of the Distributed Bass Array system. His work on the subject is well known. 
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In any experiment, especially psychological, the devil is in the details. Even when elementary errors of logic have been avoided, and even when the statistics have not been abused, measurements are often irrelevant to the goals of the study.

The whole scientific literature is littered with claims not supported by the data.


@terry9 Statistics are invariably abused. Either deliberately or by sheer utter incompetence. Neither transgression is forgivable. Swaths of rants could be (and have been) devoted to this, perhaps what you concisely describe as the devil is in the detail..

Robust studies devote an abundance of resources defining exactly what variables need and can be be quantified and in a manner that is beyond reproach.

Sadly, many empirical studies spend 5% of the time thinking about the problem and 95% of time finding a solution. The opposite approach, often incorrectly attributed to Einstein, is the one with merit.

Edit - I do not limit this comment to any particular field being analysed.  It applies generally.
53 posts11-03-2021 12:05amIf there are golden ears it isn't the hearing ability that is golden it's the ability of the listener to interpret and to what he can hear and to retain as much of it in memory. It's the brain and the listener's experience and concentration that may be golden. The actual hearing of the ear is way down the list.
 Thanks for your great post....

I wish i would have written it myself so well with so few words.... 

My deepest respect...
Oh dear Teo.     "slightly unique"

It's either unique or it isn't.
Most probably not.
For me, the question is not "Do I have golden ears?" but rather these:

"What are the conditions for proper listening?"
"What are the specific qualities to listen for?"
"How can I test myself to know that I'm attending to those qualities properly?"
and,
"What is the vocabulary to affix to said qualities?"

The very phrase "golden ears" is like the phrase in baseball pitching, "rocket arm."

I probably possess neither, by nature. But I want to listen better. That's what it means to be an audiophile -- to try, intelligently.