Why Do So Many Audiophiles Reject Blind Testing Of Audio Components?


Because it was scientifically proven to be useless more than 60 years ago.

A speech scientist by the name of Irwin Pollack have conducted an experiment in the early 1950s. In a blind ABX listening test, he asked people to distinguish minimal pairs of consonants (like “r” and “l”, or “t” and “p”).

He found out that listeners had no problem telling these consonants apart when they were played back immediately one after the other. But as he increased the pause between the playbacks, the listener’s ability to distinguish between them diminished. Once the time separating the sounds exceeded 10-15 milliseconds (approximately 1/100th of a second), people had a really hard time telling obviously different sounds apart. Their answers became statistically no better than a random guess.

If you are interested in the science of these things, here’s a nice summary:

Categorical and noncategorical modes of speech perception along the voicing continuum

Since then, the experiment was repeated many times (last major update in 2000, Reliability of a dichotic consonant-vowel pairs task using an ABX procedure.)

So reliably recognizing the difference between similar sounds in an ABX environment is impossible. 15ms playback gap, and the listener’s guess becomes no better than random. This happens because humans don't have any meaningful waveform memory. We cannot exactly recall the sound itself, and rely on various mental models for comparison. It takes time and effort to develop these models, thus making us really bad at playing "spot the sonic difference right now and here" game.

Also, please note that the experimenters were using the sounds of speech. Human ears have significantly better resolution and discrimination in the speech spectrum. If a comparison method is not working well with speech, it would not work at all with music.

So the “double blind testing” crowd is worshiping an ABX protocol that was scientifically proven more than 60 years ago to be completely unsuitable for telling similar sounds apart. And they insist all the other methods are “unscientific.”

The irony seems to be lost on them.

Why do so many audiophiles reject blind testing of audio components? - Quora
artemus_5
@ speedbump6 : Part of what you describe is one of humans' most powerful instincts, the pursuit of status. And when your livelihood or acceptance into a desired group is dependent on a belief, it's apt to be even more deeply rooted and challenges to it avoided.  Can you imagine how devastating it would feel to spend $130,000 on a pair of D'Agostino monoblocks and find out you just blew at least $127,000? Why take the risk? And that can be scaled down by income. Imagine the normal Joe spending $5,000 on a DAC then blind testing $140 one and you couldn't tell the difference. That would be like going to the casino, putting down $4,860 on one hand of Blackjack - and losing! Not a good feeling. Well, maybe you could sell the D'Agostinos for $80,000 and the DAC for $3,000 and only lose ~$50,000 and $2,000 respectively on that one hand of Blackjack, but still not a good feeling. One to be avoided at all cost. If you never take the risk, you never have to confront your mistakes.
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@thyname
Ditto Seems as though they want to force their thinking & ways on me. I could care less if they want to use electric fence or dynamite wire in their system. If they hear no difference, fine with me.  Just don't try to force me to use electric fence, dynamite or barbed wire. 

But your analogy goes even further. if we can't hear any difference in wire, can we hear it in capacitors, resistors? I wouldn't think so. Then are all amps the same? What difference would it make with an amp? Their argument gets pretty ridiculous IMO
I expect the people you have backed into a corner were as uneducated in the topic as you were.


Oh I'm sure they were nowhere near as smart as you are dletch2. They were just mere mortals but they too were much smarter than me, just like you. LOL