What do we hear when we change the direction of a wire?


Douglas Self wrote a devastating article about audio anomalies back in 1988. With all the necessary knowledge and measuring tools, he did not detect any supposedly audible changes in the electrical signal. Self and his colleagues were sure that they had proved the absence of anomalies in audio, but over the past 30 years, audio anomalies have not disappeared anywhere, at the same time the authority of science in the field of audio has increasingly become questioned. It's hard to believe, but science still cannot clearly answer the question of what electricity is and what sound is! (see article by A.J.Essien).

For your information: to make sure that no potentially audible changes in the electrical signal occur when we apply any "audio magic" to our gear, no super equipment is needed. The smallest step-change in amplitude that can be detected by ear is about 0.3dB for a pure tone. In more realistic situations it is 0.5 to 1.0dB'". This is about a 10% change. (Harris J.D.). At medium volume, the voltage amplitude at the output of the amplifier is approximately 10 volts, which means that the smallest audible difference in sound will be noticeable when the output voltage changes to 1 volt. Such an error is impossible not to notice even using a conventional voltmeter, but Self and his colleagues performed much more accurate measurements, including ones made directly on the music signal using Baxandall subtraction technique - they found no error even at this highest level.

As a result, we are faced with an apparently unsolvable problem: those of us who do not hear the sound of wires, relying on the authority of scientists, claim that audio anomalies are BS. However, people who confidently perceive this component of sound are forced to make another, the only possible conclusion in this situation: the electrical and acoustic signals contain some additional signal(s) that are still unknown to science, and which we perceive with a certain sixth sense.

If there are no electrical changes in the signal, then there are no acoustic changes, respectively, hearing does not participate in the perception of anomalies. What other options can there be?

Regards.
anton_stepichev
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Technology/research-helping-scientists-understand-humans-recognize-voices-computers/story%3fid=60699647

And so, I wondered - if human beings are not only able to recognise human voices quicker and better than computers, but also the nuance of mood in each voice heard, is this a reasonable step to believing that there are indeed some things in sound that computers are not able to measure? Keeping in mind, of course, that the subtlest timbral differences the human ear is capable of registering to know when the music they are hearing has a little more ‘air’ or realism, or a touch more focus of separation to each instrument or voice, is even less obvious (and measurable?) than the nuance of mood in a voice?
@kevn,

methinks the basic fallacy isn’t that computers can’t hear but rather that Human minds haven’t found the right measurement methods to program them appropriately. Ultimately AI will lead us to codify hitherto uncodified human sentiments such that computers can reflect them, we are just not there yet and I question whether pure two-dimensional, scalar models will ever appropriafely reflect the complex patterns of acoustics and human hearing.
methinks the basic fallacy isn’t that computers can’t hear but rather that Human minds haven’t found the right measurement methods to program them appropriately. Ultimately AI will lead us to codify hitherto uncodified human sentiments such that computers can reflect them, we are just not there yet and I question whether pure two-dimensional, scalar models will ever appropriafely reflect the complex patterns of acoustics and human hearing.
You are right on the spot ...

BUT

And it is a big BUT,

Mimicking perfectly human feeling or perception (Turing Test) is not at all like feeling and perceiving with a real consciousness...There is always something lacking....In the case of conscious being versus non conscious one it is the INTERNAL link manifesting between all conscious being in the universe...They are ALL connected by one source shining through each one of them ... Derived technologically created robots are not....They dont reincarnate like in some famous novel of S-F....They mimic consciousness and can be very intelligent way more than human, but like said the great Italian neuroscientist Tononi intelligence scale and consciousness scale are different, intersect, but dont fuse together and diverge anyway....

Anayway! in this thread this is a debate about wire direction, and some acoustic concept about hearing and sound perception.... Not about transhumanist ideology.... I will refrain myself to go longer on this....Thank for your interesting post anyway.....
then I think you’ll like Anna Herman
Ahhhhh !

What a voice....I am already in love....Elena is very expressive so much i understand Russian listening her...

But Anna has something very rarely heard in his voice colored timbre articulation singing , only the most beautiful voices own that angelic inflexion...

By the way i read slowly your site "Contour System"...
Very interesting....