My system....what and how will cabling impact?


Stereo Equipment


I know that not proving enough info is troubling so here is my complete list for my system.

All in around 100k.


Wilson Audio Sasha DAW

D’Agostino Integrated Amp

Clear Audio Ovation w/ 9” tracer tone arm

Clear Audio Concerto V2 MC cartridge

DCS Bartok DAC

VTL 6.5 phono pre amp (used w less then 50 hours of use)

HRS RXR Maple rack w/ isolation shelves

Transparent Music link and music wave cabling.



The room is strangely laid out. First, high cathedral ceilings with several peaks for sounds to bounce around. Second not too wide from speaker fronts to my ears but long. Approximately 25’ X 50’. From speaker fronts to my ears maybe 15. Speakers are positioned close to back wall and I am sitting on a sofa that places me about 2 feet in front of the front wall which is comprised of windows.


Now onto my first impressions. It sounds fantastic. Very warm, melodic, clean, rich and juicy are a few adjectives that come to mind. The TT sounds as good or perhaps at times better than the DAC. The soundstage is fairly wide given the limited space between my ears and the speakers.


Now onto my question. I have spent around $2,000 for cabling. I am figuring that those are what many of you would consider basic cabling. I see folks spending much much more for cabling. What does investing in high end cabling buy you? How does it effect the final outcome? Will the sound be richer and more realistic? What high end cables are recommended for the system I have? How much should one expect to spend for cables for the system I have assembled?


Thanks for your input.


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After clicking on this link provided by a ggc:
http://www.hb-cable-design.com/1_english/start.html
I would like to comment (as a licensed engineer - who is far from the smartest, most knowledgeable in electrical systems).
Making wire to perform well in a very high performance system isn't an "unknown art" like is alluded to by this manufacturer. Far, far from it. Applying specific engineering principals such as metallurgy, dielectrics, electro mechanics, geometry, construction, etc. all impact wire performance. The article states a specific parameter measures better but the wire sounds / performs worse - that's because only one parameter was measured and most importantly - the correct parameters weren't measure or weren't measure precisely.
Another issue is sometimes we get things wrong and empirical results (actual performance tested after a product is made) teaches us to identify why the performance was different from what was predicted. That's how science advances.
Make no mistake - wire design is done using science. Sure - there are people and even companies that don't use science but that's most certainly not the norm. Do you really think power companies use non-specific wire to transfer high voltage power for many miles? Power transmission wire is indeed very specific.
Doesn't apply to audio? It most certainly does.
Just one example (my posts are already too long) - shielding wire. Has anyone tested well designed cables, the exact same cables, exact in every detail - except one is conventionally shielded and one that isn't? I have - and the shielded cable reduces dynamics. Anyone care to guess why? Consider electromagnetic interaction. What I'm referring to is induced electromagnetic fields - it's what makes a magnet using electricity.
Simplified - current flowing through a wire induces a magnetic field around that wire. Signals flowing through a wire change rapidly when music is played. The induced magnetic fields expand and collapse very very rapidly.
Now, just like the mechanical inertia of a physical object on earth (with gravity) in motion requires a force to stop it - electromagnetic induced fields have what we can refer to as an electromagnetic inertia. These fields expand and collapse within fractions of a second. Shielding impedes the ability of these electromechanical field to expand and collapse - stated another way - the rise and collapse times of these fields are effected. I presume AudioQuest uses active shielding fields that are directed and spaced far enough away from the signal carrying wire so as not to significantly compromise the expanding and collapsing of these electromagnetic induced fields. 
Not sure if I'm doing a good job in trying to explain, in over simplified terms that science is very much used in making wire that performs well.
But please realize any entity that states science isn't used as the primary method to design and construct wire - I'd recommend avoiding.
Kindest regards :-)
When choosing cables-- for speakers, components, or power, beyond a point (based upon materials and workmanship) you will not get better sound by spending more and more money on cables. What you will get are differences-- like flavor notes on wine. So you might as well try a few brands and just settle on what you like (and ostensibly you can afford).

It is pure BS that a $5,000 cable sounds better than a $500 cable. Pure BS. I expect this post will be likely pulled because I have stated a plain fact bluntly that some advertisers take offense to-- especially those that make wild, impossible to substantiate claims for products that they sell for obscene profit margins. Yes, I do feel it is a little obscene to create a product that, lets say costs a few hundred dollars in materials and labor only to be sold for 10x-50x that at the retail level based upon fantasy claims that have nada to back them up.

The OP has a very nice system and no doubt small changes in the sound will come from trying different cables-- but when you receive advice like- spend more than $2k per cable to get better sound-- that is, again, pure BS.

So spend whatever you want, but do not for a second believe anyone that makes the claim that by spending more on cables that it will guarantee you a better sounding system. It will if you are using really cheap cables, but since you are already using very good cables, what you should expect are differences-- and they may be real or just psychoacoustic-- so I recommend "living" with the changes for a while to get a more complete sense of whether you prefer the sound as it is or as it was.

In the end, sometimes all someone wants is change for change 's sake, and there's nothing wrong with that either.
It takes an awful lot to make me pen a comment but having read and re-read MillerCarbons contribution to this question I am compelled to say, if anyone needs an example of a person in love with the sound of their own voice/messages/opinions look no further. MC you seem to state everything you think as if it's a proven fact when it's more often it's just another subjective opinion. To the OP you need to get a decent selection in to your system on a sale or return basis and give each set a reasonable amount of time. If a certain brand does not offer this forget them, there's already far too much choice. Iconoclast cables are definitely available on a sale or return basis and the Cable Company will offer you a good selection. I hope you find what you are looking for. Ps you have some wonderful components and the making of a great system.
wesheadley - I agree, cable margins are to an extreme. Extremely unreasonable - even for the research and development involved (I was in the pharmaceutical R&D field).
From experience, I've learned there are drastic differences in fidelity - wires and other components.
You can choose to believe and share what you like - based on your experiences. I will not post further to contradict. Every time I try to share experiences, someone always contradicts - always. Sharing experiences and information shouldn't be this difficult - but it is. I guess it's just human nature.
This is exactly why I gave up promoting cables. I'm not trying to convince anyone, I don't need to. I do wish a fraction of the individuals who contradict would visit me with their own wires and listen for themselves and then post here what their experiences were.
Without it - it's merely a bunch of people writing of their own experiences, mostly disagreeing with each other.
I really appreciate everyone’s feedback, opinions and dogma. It all helps me make an informed decision. I can and will give each it’s appropriate weight. From the beginning I was intending to spend around $35,000 to build the dream system I could never have afforded as a young person. I recall going to my rich uncle’s huge holiday parties in the 70’s and listening to his Macintosh equipment and being green with envy. Well $35k quickly morphed into 100k! 🤩🤩🤩 such is what happens to my well intentioned plans.
MC said HRS RXR Maple rack w/ isolation shelves is after all just a rack. I assume he was simply trying to make a point. Because even this audiophile neophyte knows that a 15k rack is more than just a rack. In fact HRS is trying to do exactly what he has accomplished with his podiums and pods. Namely isolation and vibration reduction. It’s possible that podiums and pods can accomplish the same for less. I suppose it’s also possible that adding podiums and pods would substantially increase that isolation.
That will be for another day. The sales team I am using asked me to wait on that issue for the time being. They believe that the Sacha speakers are designed to be spiked to the floor and are constructed with materials that already have created superior isolation. For now my focus is on wires, Cables and interconnects.

From that perspective your many opinions are vastly disparate. Everything from you have spent enough already on those components to you need to spend $30,000 to find the most benefit from those components. Somewhere between those two extremes lies my answer.

I will say this Wilson audio constructs their speakers using Transparent as their wires and interconnects within their speaker cabinets. I imagine they have done their research and have determined that Transparent provides the best component wires for their equipment. Or perhaps they’ve simply gotten the best deal from Transparent. Though when you’re constructing $38k speakers I can’t imagine that saving some money on wires makes much difference.
I will start by trialing 3 price categories of transparent cables and wires. I really want to hear if I even can detect a difference. I will choose that set which I believe gives me the most bang for my buck. However, I will only agree to keep that set if I can then compare it against other manufacturers to see if transparent really is the best set up for my equipment. Stay tuned. Again, I really do appreciate each and every person‘s perspective.