Better Integrated Amp?


Hi, I'm looking at my first set up and have been advised by people on this website to get an integrated amp (including phono stage). I'm looking at the Quad Vena 2 which I would have to get second hand due to cost, and the Denon PMA-800NE which I could buy new whilst still being the cheaper option. I'm open to other suggestions to just wanted to get your thoughts on which amp I should go for or if I should look at some others too.
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I thought i would try and figure out what amp to get before figuring out what speaker to pair it with. 
Why would you think that?  I’d highly recommend you figure out speakers first.  Case in point — the Quad only puts out 45Wpc, which will limit your speaker choices quite a bit.  Just my 2 pence FWIW, and best of luck. 

Mikem: I agree with the importance volume control is. Names withheld, but I've had amps where the volume on the remote won't move when you hit the +, then goes up fast. Another problem is to see the volume knob if it only has a small white dot on it. 
Recently bought a Hegel H390. The display numbers of the level are clear without glasses at 8' back, and I need them over 6'. 
I second Yamaha 501, or higher model if you can. I have been very familiar with it. It is an excellent amplifier. I cannot say how it compares to others listed, but it is a good machine.  A pair of Monitor Audio speakers to match and you are good to go.
I would highly recommend the PS Audio Sprout. My secondary system used the original Sprout (it has been updated to the Sprout 100 with 100w through 4 ohms and the convenience of a remote control) and the Q Acoustics 3050 floor standing speakers and the sound was excellent and a true “budget” system. I used a Music Hall Turntable with an Ortofon 2M Blue cartridge and they all paired well. The Sprout 100 retails new for $699 but I have seen them used for about $500 or so. The sprout also has Bluetooth built in as well.  I also have the Denon PMA-600NE for my office system driving Gallo Acoustics bookshelf speakers and it is quite good as well— however the PS Audio is much better (and more expensive new).