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Are cables really worth their high price because of their geometry?

They’re some pricey cables that have claim to fame because of the high tech geometry used in their cables.
Many of these cables have patents on specific geometry patterns used in their cables and use this as a reason their cables sound so good. For that reason, many say the reason their cables cost so much is they’re so complex . The man hours to make a pr results in their high price. That maybe true for some cables, but I’ve seen very pricey cables using the same geometry reason that look like a thin piece of wire rapped in outer jacket no thicker than a pencil. So,Is all this geometry just another way to justify their cost or is it true science that we are paying in the end?
hiendmmoe
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b4icu
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Mr. justmetoo
At the bottom line, all that matters is the resistance of your speaker cable vs. the Amp's DF (Ro).
All the descriptions of yours about the three cables, are good for Fri. eve, to tell around the coffee table, or to put asleep a kid.
None has any contribution to the facts of electricity and electronics.
As the speaker cable is an extension of the Amp's Ro, the speaker load is of no significance,  and so are all the BS that the cable makers and sales guys spread (as a pandemic).
When you get the right cable (calculated) the sound is so much better.
After that, no matter what you put there, it wont match or improve.
hiendmmoe OP
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Mr. Justmetoo, why do insist on calling anticables a scam?
He isn’t packaging his cables to cover up anything. If you see his cables the geometry isn’t complex and he doesn’t claim they’re.
What he does do is talk about the actual conductor and how it’s drawn and how they have improved this technique to make a better sounding cable. I’ve been to anticable’s business and have seen how they produce their cables and believe me it isn’t some do at home company.
andy2
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Twisted cables tend to have higher capacitance but lower inductance on average.  It's a trade off so there is no perfect solution.  
andy2
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Twisted wire will help guard against interference. I've never tried these but they look pretty well made and offer to measure the LCR for you at a reasonable price.

https://sites.google.com/view/pine-tree-audio/speaker/speaker-cables/visceral
Cable snake oil does not only belong to the high-end, but also at the low end as well.  Belden is an example of low end snake oil.  
redwoodaudio
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The claims of these cable manufacturers with regards to their proprietary geometries, materials, processes' effects on sound quality (ie holography) would be a lot more useful and credible if they told you what level or type of audio system was required to fully express them. Selling "holographic" cables for an unknown or mediocre system is like selling specialty racing motor oil for your Toyota corolla. I guess everyone wants to believe they can turn their system into a racecar with the right cable setup. It's just so freaking silly! 
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