Which one to choose between two 80K$ tube amps?


There are two interesting 80K$ tube amps on sale at Audiogon.

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis9jhj0-david-berning-co-211-845-otl-tube

The first one is David Berning OTL design with output of 60 Watts.

it looks beautiful. But I had never used OTL amp yet.

I am curious how it sounds with high efficiency speaker.

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisa27ii-jadis-ja800-flagship-tube-amplifier-six-chassis-best-ever-made-nos-new-old-stock-tube

The second one is Jadis JA800 with 6 pieces and 400watts.

I had used JA500  (only 4 pieces with 350 Watts) from 2000 to 2002 to drive B&W Notilus 801 with utmost authority and unbelievable slam.

It was kind of lifetime experience to own this beautiful and overbearing monster.

But I could not use it during summer time in modest size room.

Thus I let it go and got Silbatone 300B SET amp to drive efficient full range speaker.

350 Watt to 8 Watt

If you have money or hit the Jackpot, which one will you go for?




128x128shkong78
Western Electric Audio Porn.....if you are into that sort of thing.

and some definitely are. i've not personally been bitten by this bug....yet.

http://www.silbatoneacoustics.com/collection.html

http://www.silbatoneacoustics.com/labsystems.html
HI Mike

I had been bitten by bug for 20 years.

My buddy suggested  me to try out smaller full range model, We755.

But i would rather go for full vintage horn which give natural dynamics and details.

If you attend Munich High End show next year, you could be bitten by bug too.
Western Electric is one of the famous US company dating back to 1869.

But it is harder to find WE vintage horn in good condition insiide US now.

Most good ones are located in Asia or Europe.

Thus I will look for one in Korea with the advice of my friend.

One of my friend is the owner of Silbatone who display his vintage horn in Munich high end show.
@shkong78
I've heard that system in Munich in two different years. I liked it a lot. But having also heard the Classic Audio Loudspeakers, I would go with the latter in a heartbeat. Your friend's system was inordinately complex, somewhat diffuse for centerfill, and lacking the frequency extremes (in spite of the Altec-based subwoofer). Despite that it was one of the more interesting systems I saw at the show and I took a lot of photos. If you want it for the shear size and impressiveness of how a system that old that can sound that good, I can see that.


But if you simply want something that sounds the best it can for the money then I would look elsewhere.
Dear Ralph

It is hard to optimize the sound at open space in public in short time.

Thus you may had been less impressed with his Western vintage systems at Munich.

I had listened to the system in his listening room and modest size jazz caffe where he had spent more than 6 months to optimize the sound.

Audio depends on personal taste. Thus there is no best thing for everyone.


But to me his system is the ultimate pinnacle with natural timber and utmost details.

Jazz vocal sounds so spooky that it seems as if they are in front of you.


I had been happy with Lansche 4.1 since 2007 due to excellent vocal out of plasma tweeter.

Also I had got Scaena 3.2 at whim last December.

I may try your OTL amp with Scaena next year.

I will use those two decent speakers until I can afford genuine vintage Western horn system.

No other modern speakers are within my consideration

Thomas