Esoteric DV-50: Any cdp's Significantly better?


Is there are anyone out there who has compared the Esoteric DV-50 to a number of dedicated red book only players (or other universal's) and found one that is SIGNIFICANTLY better?

I stress significantly because in my humble opinion the redbook playback (if comparison unit is just a cd cd player only )must be significantly better to justify losing DVD-A, SACD and DVD-Video capability.

I keep hearing there are better one box solutions and being a die hard 2 channel fan I would sell my DV-50 if I found a player in the same price range that sounds significantly better. But every time I do an AB comparision to other well respected units the DV-50 has slayed each and every one.

So far, it has eaten the lunch of the Classe CDP-10, Ayre CX-7, Linn Ikemi, Cairn Fog Vers. 2, Cary 306/300, Arcam DV 27A and CD 33T, Myryad CD 600, etc. It even betters a Sony SCD 777ES/MF Tri-Vista 21 transport/dac combo that I previously owned. I'm only comparing the DV-50 to single box cd or universal players, but I just wanted to mention the Sony/MF combo. I'm sure there are some dac/transport combo's that will handily beat the DV 50.

Some may say that the DV 50 should beat all the above because the of price point ($5,500 vs. average price of $3,000 for the above players). But I disagree since conventional wisdom says that stand alone players (especially with the pedigree of those mentioned above) should produce better redbook than a universal player trying to be a jack of all trades. Only the DV 27A does video plus audio. By the way, I was very impressed with the 27A as just a cd player. Of all the above I would say the Ayre was the best.

Next on my list is the Electrocompaniet EMC 1UP and the Resolution Audio Opus 21. However, I must tell you I am really impressed with the DV 50 and all the great reviews are absolutely true. I've noticed that many people who are using it or comparing to other players are using the RCA analog outs instead of the balanced outs. There is a significant improvement in sound if you use the balanced outs and I'm only interested in hearing comments from people who have compared it against other players using the balanced outs on the DV-50.

My system components are as follows:

B&W N803's speakers & HTM-1 center
Cary Cinema 5 (5 x 200) amp
Anthem D1 Statement pre/pro
Esoteric DV 50
Acoustic Zen Satori Shotgun speaker wire
Nirvana SX balanced interconnects from DV-50 to Anthem
Acoustic Zen Matrix reference II interconnects from D1 to Cary
No after market power cords or isolation equipment

My system sounds great! Those who comment please make sure to specify what specific improvements you heard over the DV 50 and what cdp were you comparing it against.

AVGURU
avguru
argh! more shootouts! noooooooo!

wait - will there be beer? can i come?

(grabs a bottle of hooch and a plane ticket)
Ben go for it Shootout is fun,

Tvad, you know we both like to cook, its ok to put
the Anchovies on the tubes, the smell is nothing
compare to the benefit you will get from the music.
If you play Jacinta, She might come out on the
speaker to search the smell.

Brian, I am ahead of you on my order, please be
patient,Tom is only by himself.Do him a favor
Put your Magnavox to your freezer for 1 week.As
you know he hand picked parts.

Tvad (Grant) why cant we have a shootout on cooking?
BOA,

my comments are meant to reflect that the thread has decayed into nonsense again. People are using this thread just for a laugh. Well that is a complete waste of my time. I am on this thread for hifi not boring schoolboy inuendos.

Yes you lot remind me of my patients when they are depressed. i.e talk a lot of b..ls..t. I have to put up with them all day, I can't be doing with more of the same when I want to relax, and reflect on my next move for my hifi system. Boring boring boring, this thread is now offically dead in my book. Nothing left to gain from it.

Luke
To be honest, Conrad Johnson actually did use rubber bands to suspend a nuvister tube board in their Premier series phono pre amp in the 80's. The nuvistors were so prone to vibration and mechanical noise that tapping on the cabinet made one helluva ring throughout the system. I did experiment with different types of rubber/silicone bands as an alternative.

I believe I paid $1200 for that unit back then, and it was of usual CJ design - goldish color faceplate on full 19" cabinet. Imagine my suprise to open the cabinet and find only a transformer and 3" x 5" board suspended by rubber bands!
Luke,
If you feel that you have to put up with your patients, maybe you need a vacation, my man. Or perhaps a different occupation altogether. Did someone force you into that career choice? Or coerce you into reading our "schoolboy nonsense," as you referred to it? Change the channel, or learn how to laugh, buddy. Life's too short for such tunnel vision arrogance.

Have you ever considered that your attitude might actually exacerbate the depressive state of your patients? Because you've certainly brought that tone to this thread by crushing every person's attempt to spread a little humour.

I'm ordering my anchovy oil today, headmaster. Bow out if you prefer...