What was wrong with the P-mount ?


So, as some of you may gather, I know very little about turntables. I mean, I know the general physics, the RIAA curve, cartridge loading, stuff any one can pick up from a book.

Sometimes I think of getting into vinyl, especially with a store right across the street, the new Techniques turntables as well as old and new Luxmans or Yamahas, and then I remember the cartridges and all the issues of setting them up correctly, cleaning the vinyl, carefully holding the LP and I return to my digital only lifestyle.

One thing I was thinking about in all of this was, what happened ot the whole P-mount industry? Perfectly reasonable idea to me. Fixed dimensions for the cartridge, adjust the tracking force, and bam, done.

What went wrong?
erik_squires
Eric when you’re buying new Technics turntable like SL1200G or SL1200GR (those are the best you can get) a cartridge adjustment is very easy, because plastic overhang gauge is included. This is how it works and you don’t need a P-Mount cartridge.

There is only ONE thing you have to check, it’s position of the stylus tip, it must be right under the mark on the overhang gauge.

Just buy yourself a brand new Technics from the store with warranty and be happy, it’s great turntable if you can afford SL1200GR at least (or G for much higher price).

I don’t like Rega and all that belt drive crap they are selling for higher price than perfect Technics SL1200GR ($1700 in USA).

If you need a decent MM cartridge for your Technics i can not only offer you some of the best MM, but i could mount and align it for you not only with Technics overhang gauge, but also with Dr.Feickert if you want Baerwald alignment method instead of Technics method. I’m sure some fellow audiophiles can do the same for you. I own a few Technics turntables myself (and many others).



Zero adjustments?? Sounds perfect! :)
Be careful what you wish for. Simple is fine, as long as simple also provides the performance you are expecting.



The P-mount was adopted most notably by B&O back when they made some of the best sounding MI cartridges, ever, in my opinion. Peter Ledermann must think highly of them too, since he has devoted his company to repairing the old MMC series and building new cartridges based on the same idea. The P-mount was very well suited to very high compliance types, because you could dispense with a headshell entirely, thereby lowering effective mass compared to almost any other alternative method of mounting. The problem was and is that P-mounts from company A are not cross-compatible even with P-mounts from company B. For example, a B&O P-mount cartridge will only work on a B&O tonearm with a B&O P-mount receptacle. In the end, B&O and others who made P-mounts usually had to come up with some sort of adapter, so to mount the cartridge in a conventional headshell. I own a B&O MMC1 and an Acutex LPM320III. Those are two of my finest sounding cartridges, bar none. Both P-mounts being used with adapters. For Mijo to dismiss all P-mount cartridges with the back of his hand only reveals either his ignorance or his intransigence. Some of the other propaganda he dispenses with regularity, regarding dust covers and the need to clean an LP, is also, to say the least, questionable.
@erik_squires 
I understand what you mean about the Rega TT. I had a P3-24 with an Exact 2 and it was fine and simple to set up. Now I have a Technics SL1200G with a Hana SL. Like Chakster said, easy to set up. Just one more step than the Rega and much better performance. 
I will have to find P-Mount adaptor for my Technics P-205c mk4 cartridge.
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