Esoteric DV-50: Any cdp's Significantly better?


Is there are anyone out there who has compared the Esoteric DV-50 to a number of dedicated red book only players (or other universal's) and found one that is SIGNIFICANTLY better?

I stress significantly because in my humble opinion the redbook playback (if comparison unit is just a cd cd player only )must be significantly better to justify losing DVD-A, SACD and DVD-Video capability.

I keep hearing there are better one box solutions and being a die hard 2 channel fan I would sell my DV-50 if I found a player in the same price range that sounds significantly better. But every time I do an AB comparision to other well respected units the DV-50 has slayed each and every one.

So far, it has eaten the lunch of the Classe CDP-10, Ayre CX-7, Linn Ikemi, Cairn Fog Vers. 2, Cary 306/300, Arcam DV 27A and CD 33T, Myryad CD 600, etc. It even betters a Sony SCD 777ES/MF Tri-Vista 21 transport/dac combo that I previously owned. I'm only comparing the DV-50 to single box cd or universal players, but I just wanted to mention the Sony/MF combo. I'm sure there are some dac/transport combo's that will handily beat the DV 50.

Some may say that the DV 50 should beat all the above because the of price point ($5,500 vs. average price of $3,000 for the above players). But I disagree since conventional wisdom says that stand alone players (especially with the pedigree of those mentioned above) should produce better redbook than a universal player trying to be a jack of all trades. Only the DV 27A does video plus audio. By the way, I was very impressed with the 27A as just a cd player. Of all the above I would say the Ayre was the best.

Next on my list is the Electrocompaniet EMC 1UP and the Resolution Audio Opus 21. However, I must tell you I am really impressed with the DV 50 and all the great reviews are absolutely true. I've noticed that many people who are using it or comparing to other players are using the RCA analog outs instead of the balanced outs. There is a significant improvement in sound if you use the balanced outs and I'm only interested in hearing comments from people who have compared it against other players using the balanced outs on the DV-50.

My system components are as follows:

B&W N803's speakers & HTM-1 center
Cary Cinema 5 (5 x 200) amp
Anthem D1 Statement pre/pro
Esoteric DV 50
Acoustic Zen Satori Shotgun speaker wire
Nirvana SX balanced interconnects from DV-50 to Anthem
Acoustic Zen Matrix reference II interconnects from D1 to Cary
No after market power cords or isolation equipment

My system sounds great! Those who comment please make sure to specify what specific improvements you heard over the DV 50 and what cdp were you comparing it against.

AVGURU
avguru
Went to Alex's web site. I confirm the option for the masterclock generator for $200 on APL 3910. On the other hand I saw no mention of a balanced output stage. Question is also: will this option be simply XLR connection, or does it involve a fully differential balanced design?
Perhaps Alex and Steve Milin can comment on the sound improvements for these two new features.
Oh, do I so love an ever thickening plot! And yes, of course, the magic rabbit is running ever faster along the track's raill. . . Arf! Arf! Arf!
Guidocorona. Don't know why but going to apl website through agon you don't get the updated info. Go to aplhifi.com from your home page. Alex explains how he does the balanced outs on the updated site.
Thank you Frank, I did open the page from the address bar and found the following info about Alex's balanced output design for the APL 3910:
"Unlike all of the available Balanced output machines using a simple Op Amp for Single Ended to Balanced conversion, or the even more complicated designs called "true balanced" using twice more components on the signal path, the new APL Hi-Fi Balanced Output is actually giving you the sound quality of a Single Ended Triode drive. The actual phase splitting is done by the secondary windings of the output transformer while driven from the same Single Ended 6H30 Tube stage. This component-less Balanced output design gives you the Ultimate sonic performance with all the benefits of Single Ended Designs. . . "
The modification costs a modest $249. I am not qualified to comment on the engineering merits of this solution, but if it indeed it worked, it would deliver the sonic benefits of a traditional balanced design at a fraction of the price. Any comments from Alex, Dan, and any Agoners with either qualified EE knowledge or listening experience of similar designs will be appreciated.
Frankg dude check your email I sent you a message like over a week ago. Justin
this thread just keeps getting more and more interesting.
Speaking of Alex, is he generally pretty responsive? I've written him twice over the past week, and have not heard back. I wanted to pass by his shop on Thursday for an audition of a modded unit, but it looks like that may not happen now.
This is a great thread, by the way. Very informative.