Move to the next level


I would appreciate opinions. In the past two years I have put together a modest system that has tremendously increased my appreciation of music. I have legacy collections of vinyl and cds, about 500 of each, but what has really excited me is streaming because of the way it lets you roam through time and genre virtually unrestricted. Currently I am listening to a Yamaha wxc50 connected to a Rogue Sphinx which feeds into a pair of KEF LS50s and a Syzygy SLF850 sub. I also have a Mac mini running Audirvana that hosts my ripped collection of CDs in the Apple lossless format and that runs into the Sphinx through a Topping D50s DAC.I am at the point where I'm ready to make a major investment in a quality source for my system to move to the next level of sound quality. I’m thinking of a budget of about $5000 for which I’d like a streamer/server with quality power supplies and preferably the DAC, along with, if within budget,  Roon. Candidates so far are the Aurilac Aries G2, Innuous Zenith Mk II, SOTM SMS200-ultra, and Lumin D2. What do you think fellow sound addicts?
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What I’m running with right now in my system would fall within your budget. Roon Nucleus feeding Chord Qutest DAC via Curious USB Cable. The Nucleus has a bay which can be fitted with an SSD or HDD such that it could function as your server.
At full retail:
Roon Nucleus $1399
Lifetime Roon Member ship
                         $699
Chord Qutest  $1695
Curious USB    $350
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Total                $4143
Still leaves room within your budget to purchase SSD and upgraded power supplies if so desired for Nucleus and/or Qutest.
I’m currently utilizing Small Green Computer 5v LPS ($160) with my Qutest and stock power supply with my Nucleus.
The key to all this is using Roon Nucleus as your Server, functioning as Roon Core Server and Player. You can substitute the DAC and USB Cable of your choice. I find that this setup works very well.


@artemus_5 , you would think being in NJ I'd have lots of choices but perhaps it has to do with the death of retail but I have found that usually when you get to a dealer they may not have the model I am interested in, making it a "special order" and if they do it is connected to equipment that is so different from what I own that the listening test is meaningless.

@jazzman7 , Thanks for your post on a couple of counts.

First it brings me to realize I don't fully understand the exact meaning of the terms server, streamer, bridge and player. So I've got to do some homework. Which of these can access online streaming services such as Spotify, Tidal and radio stations vs playing audio files from a local source?
Second, I gather that the above streaming capability is a combination of hardware and software functions. There is proprietary software like the Musicast system on my Yamaha, but then there seem to be several downloadable versions of  software that can provde similar if not identical functionality presumably, if you have the right hardware. Piecing this part together is another blind spot at the moment. Any light you can shed would be appreciated.
Third, I'm was not familiar with Small Green Computer in New Hampshire, they look like an interesting company. Had you previously used their Sonictransporter before getting your Roon Nucleus. It looks like it is a parallel product.

Lastly, does your current set up offer access to on-line streaming services and radio, if so how? If not that is the key missing piece for me in you otherwise admirable setup.
@bruce19, I’ll attempt to answer your questions one at a time.
There is a fair amount of overlap when it comes to servers, streamers, network bridges, and players. But a fair amount of the functionality of the hardware pretty much comes down to the capabilities of the operating software that it is running. A server or player/renderer may or not have have an internal DAC. Most will also function as a network bridge. Most will also support use of an external DAC. A pure network bridge will require use of an external DAC.

Roon software supports Tidal, Qobuz, Internet Radio, and streaming from local libraries of Rips and Downloads. It currently does not support Spotify. What is simply marvelous about Roon is the way that it integrates selections from Tidal and/or Qobuz with your own personal local libary. Your Tidal and Qobuz favorites appear alongside your personal local stuff by Artist, just as if it was part of your local library. And what is also simply marvelous is the Artificial Intelligence built into Roon which supports music discovery. If you allow it, Roon will pick selections for you based on other selections you have played, both from your own library as well as from subscription services.

With Roon, you have the concept of Roon Core and Roon Endpoints.
Roon Core can be run on a PC or MAC, but to do it right, Roon Core really ought to be run on a dedicated Roon Server. A multitasking PC which is also running Roon is a recipe for sub optimal performance.

I picked up my Roon Nucleus in November. I simply love it and there is no going back. I’m currently streaming from my local library as well as Qobuz. Prior to Qobuz I was streaming from Tidal. And prior to Roon I was streaming via Bluesound products. I’ve had Bluesound kit since 2014 and have four pieces of Bluesound kit around the house, and all can function as Roon Endpoints. Via Blu OS I can get to other Blu OS supported subscription services such as Spotify (but currently I’m only doing Qobuz).

I had considered the Sonic Transporter, but considered the Nucleus to be a better solution as it is a perfectly tailored solution by the same vendor. Roon had long been on my roadmap. When my local dealer announced he was closing his store and retiring, I picked up the store’s demo unit at the retirement sale.

My system as of October 2019 can be seen here https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8156
In November the Roon Nucleus replaced my Bluesound Node 2i as my principal streaming source.

I hope I have addressed your questions. If not you can either get back to me here and/or via PM.

In summary, Roon if done right is expensive, but in my opinion if you can afford it well worth it, especially in conjunction with Qobuz and/or Tidal.






 Not Looking to hijack this thread. I’m thinking about upgrading my Oppo 105 , that I’m using as DAC for my Roon Nucleus. My Oppo is feed into my Marantz Sr7005 via RCA.  Nucleus is connected to the Oppo vis USB.  What would be considered the next level up from the Oppo as a DAC ?