Streaming + DAC questions. Please help this noob!


Hi Guys,

After a couple of decades avoiding the desire to become an audiophile . . . here I am. I've jumped head first and purchased the following:

Bryston BP 20 preamp
Bryston 4B SST amp
B&W 801 Matrix II

I'm actively avoiding becoming a vinyl collector (too many hobbies, not enough physical space, etc etc), so most of my music will be from Spotify. I know they aren't the greatest quality . . . but for the sake of ease and variety and modernity, that's what I'm using. My 'hub' would be an imac sitting 10 feet away from the hifi system. I'd like to control from that computer since that's where I'm sitting most of the day. 

At first, I had hoped to be able to connect via bluetooth adapter directly into preamp and that sounded horrible. (Lesson #1). I then tried with an Audioquest Beetle and that sounded pretty good. I also tried an ipad direct into the preamp and that's OK, too (not as good as with Beetle). But it's clear to me I probably need a dedicated DAC (Lesson #2). So my questions:

1. Whats the best way to use Spotify connect via my Imac? Should I dedicate the ipad to sit on top of the hifi? I also have an old macbook pro that could sit on the hifi and be the connected hardware. The beetle worked fine, but I don't want my computer sounds to come out of my hifi system, only Spotify. 

2. My head is spinning with DAC info. It seems like I can't go wrong with a $99 Schiit, but I'd rather just buy right the first time. Happy to spend up to 1k (used is definitely ok with me) on a DAC that I can just forget about. Did I mess up by not getting an integrated preamp/dac? 

I come to you guys with humility and ready for Lessons 3 thru infinity.
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Maybe I’m late to this, but I am looking into the Lumin D2 and Auralic Altair G1. I will most likely choose the Lumin D2 for my system. With the gear you are using, you might want to do the same. I currently have the BlueSound Node 2i and have been disappointed thus far. My previous set-up was a MacBook air steamed through a Resonessence Concero dac. The drop off in quality has not been subtle. I have not run the Node2i thru the Concero to compare, but my hope when purchasing the Node2i was a one box solution. The Lumin D2 will stream and convert, but does not offer any extra digital inputs. Reports are that it sounds sweet, warm and analog. The Altair G1 will also stream and convert, and has better functionality with the addition of a headphone amp, digital inputs and wireless connectivity. Reported sound is more detailed and airy than the Lumin. I don’t think you can go wrong with either for the price and both are ROON ready.
A DAC and Streamer along with a program to organize your music files will be important over time. If you are only going to be streaming off a music site such as Spotify or Tidal then the program to organize the files is not critical at this point but the DAC and Streamer are. I like one box solutions and I like to connect using a Network connection as opposed to a USB connection.
There are many DACs, Streamers and one box solutions out there. You should listen to them if possible prior to just taking someones suggestion but suggestions are a great way to start your auditioning. The price range is incredibly wide. In my opinion you probably should think about $2,500 as a top limit for both the DAC and Streamer. Once you have it all set up and have become comfortable you may start to add digital music files to your listening.
When adding music files happens in a big way you will then be moving into the next phase in which you will move to a NAS drive and file organizing programs. At that point you might even begin to think about upgrades for the DAC or Streamer but that is way off into the future since it appears that you are just streaming music off the net while working at your desk.
Hi,  I like many here, started my digital journey with a Mac, and then upgraded to a Bluesound node (2).  Nice interface and Streamer + DAC.  but, as many have also said, not the best DAC for High resolution.  But it is good.  You have bought nice stuff with the Bryston. I agree with streaming Tidal or Quobuz.  And I use Roon.  but I have graduated to nicer Dac's / Streamers, and I can easily hear the improvement.  I have two nice systems, one PS Audio with the PS Audio Direct Stream DAC with Bridge Streamer installed. Very Nice, on sale now, and they continually upgrade the coding to improve it.  My second DAC is an Auralic Vega 2 streamer / DAC.  Also excellent, probably more resolving but in a different (say less vinyl sounding?) way.  Still, at 600 the Bluesound is a safe start.  I have sold mine.  BTW, I have two other Bluesound units (as both are Roon endpoints).  One is a Pulse speaker in my bedroom, and the other a Powernode in a studio.  They work extremely well in this arena.  Thanks,  Ken
Stereophile will expand your inquiries regarding DACs.  I occasionally use for background music, or to find something new in Jazz so I then can purchase a quality cd. Traveling, I run my iphone through the car audio- typically listening to music from my  iTunes library.  At home, with serious and enjoyable audio, I'd rather plop in a well-produced cd, sacd, itc., using excellent electronics, and speakers.  Streaming reminds me of the period when FM was rapidly being contaminated by "canned" music navigated by dorky djs. It was largely scripted and hugely annoying. I find it another manifestation of the need for immediate gratification via mediocrity.
FYI: If you have a Sirius/XM subscription for your car, you can also stream it from your portable devices for free. I am streaming it from both my Iphone and Ipad Touch directly into my DAC thru the USB port, and from there on to my McIntosh preamp.The sound quality is wonderful, and you get a gazillion channels. At no extra cost.