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Need speakers recommendation for my system (in Jakarta, Indonesia)

Hi all! Long time lurker first time poster here!

I am from Jakarta, Indonesia, in South East Asia so a bit far from the United States.. however I did spend about 8 years of my life in sunny California!

I am quite a newbie in the audiophile world, my current setup are as follows:
Speakers: Focal Chorus 726. Amp: Jadis orchestra reference integrated (with KT120 power tubes, the latest version), CDP: Rega Apollo, TT: Rega Planar 6 with MM cartridge from Rega (forgot the name).
My audio room size is: 6 meters by 5 meters (around 20 feet by 16 feet)
Type of music that I love: jazz, vocals, classical concertos, pop. 

I am looking to upgrade the focal floorstanders to the next level (around 5k-10k USD range), and have auditioned the following speakers in Jakarta: Sonus Faber Olympica II, sonus faber venere, ATC SCM40, PMC 26.25, Kef R800, B&W 8 series (the cheapest floorstander one), Tannoys (kensington, westminster, etc), focal kanta no 2.

So far the ones that I like best are the olympica II and the ATC SCM40 (these two are different price range, the ATC is the best value overall). The olympica II has the best characteristics that I am looking for: deep solid bass, transparent mids & highs, and very detailed sound. The SF venere is nothing special and can't compare with the olympica.
The ATC is amazing for its value: deep bass, very thick mid and highs, albeit not as airy and extended as the olympica II. The PMC has amazing detailed mid and highs, but the bass is very lacking IMO. The Kef R800 is a good all arounder, but nothing shouts "special" to me. The B&W speakers I just don't like: the sound is like "veiled" and not transparent at all. Also the tannoy setups I find very one dimensional (only good for vocals and do not play "crowded" music well (crowded like orchestra). 

I plan to audition more speakers such as: wilson audio sabrina (a bit out of price range), vienna acoustics, the magico A3 (am really keen to try this based on the recent rave reviews), and the Kharma S7 (I heard the Galileo exquisite and its mind blowing.. but definitely out of my price range) 

Would love to hear more recomendations for speakers! Hopefully I don't have to upgrade my jadis integrated amp to a higher power one to drive these new speakers! Thanks in advance!   


jadislover
jadislover OP
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@caphill 
Yes definitely I think Rega makes best "bang for buck" products. Definitely the next step up for me in terms of CDP is probably the rega saturn. I got my Rega Apollo CDP for $500 as NOS.. was basically a steal at that price and it performs beautifully for my current needs. 

Yep the marantz gear I pretty much shelving or trying to sell... not a big fan and the sound is more "sharp" compared to the Rega. 

Unfortunately we don't have Tidal here (unless if I use VPN but not looking into that as well). I would like to keep it CD and LP at first because I use streaming (spotify) mostly only my cheap active speakers (google home). My 2.0 setup is now exclusively for CD and LP.

Eventually I will upgrade my transports, but of course my budget is limited so the next big ticket item that I have are speakers. I really enjoy making incremental improvements instead of shelling big bucks to overhaul everything. Thus why I am ok with buying used gear (bought my jadis pretty much new at a good used price as well). 

Thanks for your advice, will check out the DeVore as well.
caphill
668 posts
 
Sounds like a plan!

However by acquiring one of a digital streamer/music streamer/network audio player such as the Lumin, Aurender, Aurallic, Linn DS, Naim DS, DCS, Esoteric, etc you have access to high resolution materials so you aren’t limited to standard CD resolution and you don’t have to stream Tidal or Spotify. Some streamers have DAC some don’t. The standalone streamer (no DAC) can be connected to a DAC, even the ones that have built-in DAC you can bypass their built-in DAC and use them as digital transport to a standalone DAC.
Those high resolution PCM or DSD are way better than lower resolution CD quality. No comparison.

Don’t know if you have SACD collections. Marantz Reference series line makes pretty impressive CD/SACD players but they are much more expensive than regular Marantz series like the one you have.
Marantz SA10 CD/SACD player from its Reference series line is pretty impressive but it retails for $7k here. Esoteric and DCS also make phenomenal CD/SACD players and transports but are at different price points and are priced much higher than the Marantz SA10 Reference series.
yyzsantabarbara
4,611 posts
 
Why not have a listen to the Yamaha NS 5000. They are made in Indonesia. I am trying to listen to them in USA but not yet available.

I heard the Magico A3 and it is pretty good. I was about to buy them but I found out the Yamaha NS 5000 Is available in Canada so I am expecting them to arrive to the USA. If not, I will listen to them in Toronto where my parents live. I am not going to buy the A3 until I hear the NS 5000.
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lowrider57
5,403 posts
 
@jadislover, I think you are taking the right approach to an upgrade.
Speakers first. No doubt they will reveal the shortcomings of your system, but you're intending to make other upgrades, so you'll eventually fix these weak links.

Since your sources are CD and vinyl, get the best quality components you can afford. In my case, I have thousands of CDs and records combined and I enjoy playing and collecting physical media. Now that my sources are set, I've expanded into streaming. For me it's an additional source, not a replacement.

IMO, matching speakers to your amp should be the starting point to your upgrade.
Just my 2 cents.


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lowrider57
5,403 posts
 
There's a company in India called
Rethm that builds highly regarded speakers.

https://www.atelier13-usa.com/rethm-c6bo


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