How much do I need to spend to get a preamp that sounds better than no preamp?


Hello all.
I'm using an Audible Illusions L1 preamp and I think my system sounds better when I remove it from the signal path. Oppo BD105 directly to SMC Audio DNA1 Gold power amp. I have read that there is level of quality you need to hit before there will be an improvement in sound. I can't seem to find what that level is. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Ben
honashagen

Please give the man a break, he’s earn’t his dues and his credibility, more than you, I, Ralph and everyone else here put together. No wonder he doesn’t come here.

Nelson Pass on the Aleph L preamp. "Less than <0.1% at full volume" (with active gain in the signal path).
This is minuscule and it’s probably 2hd. Knowing Nelson it’s the nice (tube like) distortion .
And it’s only when the active circuit is fully in over 3 o’clock. All active circuits have some small distortion.
At below 3 o’clock when it’s passive it’s probably zero %.

Pass Labs: Printed SPECIFICATIONS Aleph L (volume control full clockwise)
Maximum Gain 10 dB
Freq. Response +0, -1 dB @ 10 Hz and 100 kHz
Distortion < .1 % THD

Give it a rest.
Cheers George



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Like so many things he’s designed, it’s a quirky component with a narrow appeal.
It’s one of his pride and joys as he’s stated, and said it’s a wonder it hasn’t made him filthy rich, not that he’s not already.

Give him a break? You’re banging on as if this thing is audio divinity.
Your searching for anything to put it and him down, and nothing is correct, as I have to post what he says and has measured in published in specs, to counter now 3 times what **** you’ve said.
The reason you don't like it and keep putting *** on it, is because your F5 only has 15db of gain and you need a preamp or source with huge voltage gain, and this is not it. 

I WOULD RATHER BELIEVE HIM THAN YOU, AND THAT’S A FACT!

Cheers George
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To me the real benefit of a good active preamp is better dynamics, increased soundstage dimensions, better imaging, and (if tube based) having the ability to match tube choices that best mate with the speakers.

It was mentioned earlier in this thread, but +1 for LTA MZ2 preamp.  It does all of the above running dead quiet.  Its price and simple looks makes many think its a toy, but smile all the way to bank.