How much do I need to spend to get a preamp that sounds better than no preamp?


Hello all.
I'm using an Audible Illusions L1 preamp and I think my system sounds better when I remove it from the signal path. Oppo BD105 directly to SMC Audio DNA1 Gold power amp. I have read that there is level of quality you need to hit before there will be an improvement in sound. I can't seem to find what that level is. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Ben
honashagen
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About $3500 if buying used. Or about 5-6K if you insist on buying new.

Always active (unless you get singularly lucky with the amp match) and almost always go with tubed preamps (unless you want to spend the big bucks).

Almost everyone tries to do without one and convincing themselves for the longest time that they don't need one and fighting wars on this point. You need a good preamp and they are rare. If your budget is under 8K for amp/preamp, a good integrated is always the way to go. My dealer told me this when I started my audio journey, I didn't listen, now 10 years later, I realise his wisdom.

I am using DAC direct as well, it beats most cheap preamps, but it still sucks, I am waiting to snatch the right used preamp : Shindo (Masseto or above), Coincident, Convergent etc.
I’ve looked at most of the schematics Pass has posted or published. Typically when he means to leave something out he posts a "simplified"

Please post a link to this latest Aleph L schematic of his, not Milan’s early version mod’d interpretation of it.
As I can’t believe Nelson would say one thing and yet mean another.

As we’ve conversed quite a bit, as he designed a buffer for my Lightspeed Attenuator many years ago (later to be know as the B1 buffer) so it could drive his customers low input impedance amps <20kohms
This is "simplified", yet not stated as so by him.

https://ibb.co/choBZS


Nelson Pass quotes on the Aleph L

"At positions below 3 o’clock, the volume control functions as a precision passive attenuator using discrete resistor ladders."

"At the 3 o’clock volume control position, the Aleph L offers a direct path from input to output.
The only component in the signal path is wire and switch contacts." https://ibb.co/iVXKon


"The only component in the signal path is wire and switch contacts. At positions below 3 o’clock, the volume control functions as a precision passive attenuator using discrete resistor ladders."

"Above 3 o’clock, active gain is ADDED to the output signal in 2 decibel increments, for a maximum of 10 dB
As a result, you suffer the effects of active circuitry only when additional gain is necessary."



Cheers George

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