NHT 3.3 or Mirage M1Si?


Hi. I want to upgrade my speakers (and eventually all my other components..) and I'm considering these 2 (yeah I know, they are very different) models. I'm looking on the used market and I want a killer deal for around $1500 to $2000 US used (erm, around $4000 to $6000 at retail price I guess). I want a full range speaker that can offer detailed highs, liquid mids and abysmal bass. That can be enjoyed at low levels but also at high (ground shaking?) levels. I know that at this price range I can't find a perfect speaker but I want to do a major step up from my Polk RTA11TL speakers (around $1000 early 90s). I listen to all sort of music (from Bach to Metal) and might consider to build a home theater from there...later.

I will power them accordingly (200w-300w) after having choosen my main speakers. And should move to a bigger place in the next years so these factors are of less importance for now. As for my other upstream components since I intend to swap them for better at some point.

I would like advises from peoples who have heard these two speakers, and what pros and cons you have noticed between these two. If you want to suggest me another model that you think is even better (for the same budget) fell free to do so.

Thanx for all inputs.

note: I have already read all the reviews I could find on the net about these 2 models and have a lot of infos on the NHT 3.3, but I dont have as much infos on the Mirage M1Si and no idea if there is one that is really better than the other...

Jolan
jolan
Having worked in a 'high end' audio store in the mid-90s, I have heard a wide range of speakers from that time period, including both that you've mentioned. Not that my opinion should REALLY mean anything to you, but here's what I think:

Mirage M1si - Need LOTS of room for optimal sound reproduction. Bass goes very, very low, but can sound a bit bloated depending on the room setup and amplifiers. The speaker are detailed, but certainly not hyper-detailed as some are these days. I found, for the most part, that their midrange could have been more forward (a bit of midrange suckout), but that could simply have been the electronics or the room setup (as I was just a small-fry in that store, I didn't have much say in what was hooked up to what in the 'high end' room). The bipolar design provides the listener with a wide soundfield, but perhaps not as accurate pinpointing as a pointsource speaker.

NHT 3.3's: In my opinion, a much more accurate speaker. Clinical, some would say, but I can tell you that when you shut your eyes, you won't believe how amazing the sound can be with these beautiful slabs of speaker. One major caveat: MUST BE PARTNERED WITH HIGH QUALITY, SMOOTH SOUNDING AMPLIFIER(S), or the sound will just be too harsh for longer listening periods. These speakers are meant to be placed up against a back wall, so it's my opinion that they may be a bit less intrusive than the M1's. Bass goes low...VERY low and, from what I recall, is tighter than the M1's. Detail retrieval is top notch and, because of their narrow front baffle, they image like champs. Some would say that they are unforgiving of poor recordings, but it's my opinion that they reveal the music for all its good and bad (which, to me, only adds to the presetation). They play nicely at lower volumes, but can really, REALLY knock your pants off if you want to turn them up (again, you HAVE to have high quality, high amperage amplification).

In case you hadn't already noticed, my nod goes to the NHT's. If I had the space (and the money), I would likely pick up a pair as I've been a longtime fan of 3.3's. Sure, in this day and age, I'm positive that there are better speakers out there, but I seriously doubt they can be bettered for the money for which they are sold now.

Again, I reiterate that I am in the 'accuracy' camp rather than the 'forgiving' camp and because everyone has their own tastes, many people might completely disagree with my comments.
HI, I had a pair of NHT 3.3 speakers and they sounded awesome with a pair of PS Audio mono blocks, as they did it all from highend to bass response. They where very detailed, but I had problems with them as the tweeter in the right speaker kept going out. I sent them back to NHT three times as they put in a new tweeter twice and a crossover once but they were never the same. Don't get me wrong they were awesome and maybe I just got a bad pair. I hope this may have hepled you. I would try to listen to both and go from there.
Loose is right on the money about both of these speaker systems sound, I may have used different words to describe each speakers over-all sound...but my meaning would pretty much be the same so I agree with him...EXCEPT, different strokes for different folks, I like the darker sounding Mirage over the NHT's.

Dave