Thanks a bunch Al. Your post makes complete sense.
Vitop, the Lyngdorf is a killer value when one looks at it in its whole. It is not an amp. It is a complete rig with other add-ons and options. I replaced over $22,000 worth of separates and wire with a $4000-$4500 unit. That’s seems to me to be a killer value. Others are doing the same.
I sold the following when I picked up the 2170.
- Tube Research Labs preamp - Super Dude
- Luxman DA06 dac
- Von Gaylord tube monoblock smps
- all manner of room correction panels and traps
- 4 power cords
- digital cable
- 2 set of ICs
- various footers
That’s what going to a one box solution does.
I also gained many other capabilities that I did not have before. Room correction is the biggest one. So yeah, please consider the cost of a preamp, dac, amplifiers, cables, cords, footers, and physical room treatments.
I understand thinking of it as just am amp or int amp, but that is not what it is. My previous preamp alone cost more, much more, than the Lyngdorf. Many folks own a dac or amp or preamp alone that costs more than the 2170 system.
One could purchase the DI speakers for $3000 and the Lyngdorf for $4500. Great system for $7500 new. All that is needed is a streamer or computer as a source. Killer value all around when one spends under $10,000 for what is arguably a system that competes with many systems costing 4-10x that. The electronics/wire driving the high value DI speakers in this scenario are of equal high value.......most spend a much higher percentage on the electronics and wire for their systems.
I suggest buying the Duelund 16ga stranded copper wire in cotton or NOS Western Electric 10ga copper wire in cotton (speaker cable) for $2-$10 foot depending on the one you choose. No connectors needed and just use the bare wire which is tinned and will not oxidize.
Great at times for an audiophile!
Vitop, the Lyngdorf is a killer value when one looks at it in its whole. It is not an amp. It is a complete rig with other add-ons and options. I replaced over $22,000 worth of separates and wire with a $4000-$4500 unit. That’s seems to me to be a killer value. Others are doing the same.
I sold the following when I picked up the 2170.
- Tube Research Labs preamp - Super Dude
- Luxman DA06 dac
- Von Gaylord tube monoblock smps
- all manner of room correction panels and traps
- 4 power cords
- digital cable
- 2 set of ICs
- various footers
That’s what going to a one box solution does.
I also gained many other capabilities that I did not have before. Room correction is the biggest one. So yeah, please consider the cost of a preamp, dac, amplifiers, cables, cords, footers, and physical room treatments.
I understand thinking of it as just am amp or int amp, but that is not what it is. My previous preamp alone cost more, much more, than the Lyngdorf. Many folks own a dac or amp or preamp alone that costs more than the 2170 system.
One could purchase the DI speakers for $3000 and the Lyngdorf for $4500. Great system for $7500 new. All that is needed is a streamer or computer as a source. Killer value all around when one spends under $10,000 for what is arguably a system that competes with many systems costing 4-10x that. The electronics/wire driving the high value DI speakers in this scenario are of equal high value.......most spend a much higher percentage on the electronics and wire for their systems.
I suggest buying the Duelund 16ga stranded copper wire in cotton or NOS Western Electric 10ga copper wire in cotton (speaker cable) for $2-$10 foot depending on the one you choose. No connectors needed and just use the bare wire which is tinned and will not oxidize.
Great at times for an audiophile!