subwoofer to speaker connection
I am a novice and would like to seek advice from fellow Audiogonians. In reading the forum 128025-84361 (Jan this year) on speaker and sub connection, I am intrigued by the comment from rcprince “Virtually every review I have read remarks on how the mids and upper bass from the main speakers are improved when you add a subwoofer…”. I have a pair of Focus Audio Signature Series (Model 78) speaker and one Audio Physic Luna sub. Would connecting these 2 produce improvement in the sound of music? If so , how can I best connect my sub and speaker ? I don’t mind buying the high pass filter and inline cross over as mentioned in the above forum, if needed. Moses
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Successful sub integration is an extremely misunderstood topic. By far the best way to integrate them is to install some RTA software on your computer (room eq wizzard, true rta) get a decent microphone and a test CD with uncorrelated Pink Noise- then measure your system’s response at your listening position. Chances are that your main speaker will show an acoustic high pass response. Set the sub crossover at the dropoff frequency for starters. Then do the following- Place the sub at the manufacturers recommended position. It is not necessary and often sub optimal to put the sub "in the middle". Set the sub to polarity inverted. Get a sub with continuous phase angle adjustment- e.g. JL Audio D110, Some REL, etc. This is a critical adjustment. Also critical is high level (speaker level) inputs. Run the cables in parallel with your main speaker cables. Integration is more successful when the sub input sees the same signal and signal timing at the amplifier- not the preamp. Play the sub at a louder level than the mains and measure again. Is the sub showing it’s dropoff frequency that correlates to your preciously measured main speaker? If not, adjust the crossover. Now look for peaks and valleys through the useable bass range- e.g. 20 to 125 Hz. Adjust the phase angle in steps (e.g. 1/4 turns) until you measure the smoothest response with no peaks and valleys. Adjust the sub level to match the mains. Do the ear test- and only adjust the sub level to taste. I have successfully integrated a single sub into many systems this way including recently JL Audio D110 with KEF LS50s and Harbeth C7s. In each case my response at the listening position was flat from 20Hz through the entire bass region and it sounds phenomenal. You simply cannot hear the sub- all the bass is perfeclty centered with the main speakers. Done right there is no need for additional processing or filters. |
Thanks avanti1960 for your sharing of your experience
of achieving good base sound without purchasing a high filter. I wonder if using an inexpensive high filter would achieve similar effect as what you have used, except simpler and easier. In addition, by connecting the sub parallel with the speakers to the amp terminal, the advantage of the improving mids and upper base as per comment from bdp24 and filling in the “nulls” as per comment from stingreen would be lost. Since I am a novice to this and do not have sound engineering or electronic engineering background, I hope all those with more experience and knowledge can help to understand better, so we know what would be the specific advantage of each. Moses189 |
