Planar speaker placement


Hi again. I just came across this, being new to the hobby, but would like to put it forth for those few who might not know it yet, and to get feedback from those that do and have experience with it. It being hk/limage theory speaker placement. I tried this with my Maggies and, holy cow. What a difference it made in my room! The speakers disapear from the room and the soundstage is amazing. The speakers are brought out about 40%of the room size from the wall, instead of the usual 2-4 ft, set very close to the sidewall, amd tweeters on inside. I'm sure the regulars here have heard about it, and would like to hear your thoughts. Thanks for your time.
128x128droleg
So much so good for the speaker industry !! Now audiophiles may buy an extra pair of speakers for placing next to the working speakers !

@MGM

I placed the quads on the inside of where i have my king Sound King speakers .
I started to isolate the changes to see what is causing the improvement in imaging and bass . Turns out it was the Quad speakers being next to the Kings !

Anyone care to venture why the improvement ?

Multiple speakers (even idle) in the room affect the sound in a couple of ways. If large enough based on the room size, they will affect the acoustics just by placing them in the room. An idle (not connected) cone speaker driver will resonate from the sound waves from another speaker playing the room. It will affect the sound.

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What does this tell you about dealers that have 6 speakers set up in a listening room ?


couple questions.

Is your phenomena being observed when the Quads are plugged in and when they are not?

What happens when the positions are reversed. Quads on the outside.

I can take a guess but this info would help.

@cleeds Well that is interesting and it made me want to check out your system page, but :-( yet another guy who hasn’t shared. Come on dude, let’s see it and maybe I can learn something.

Take a look at the Sound Lab site, I read it all and spoke with them, and at least with their speakers, they recommend treatment behind the speakers.

I’ll also helped multiple friends with Maggies and in each case they preferred having some absorption, diffusion or both on the front wall. Hey, if you get better results without, that saves you expense, cool. But has anyone ever seen instructions from a planar manufacturer advise the owner to NOT use absorption or diffusion behind their speakers? I haven’t. Cheers,
Spencer
sbank
@cleeds. Well that is interesting and it made me want to check out your system page, but :-( yet another guy who hasn’t shared. Come on dude, let’s see it and maybe I can learn something

+1
Imagine playing a poker game with the guys; some decide to show their cards, some don’t. What’s the point ?

With that .....I’d just like to comment that if Kalali can do that with a watermelon, imagine what he can do with a sound room :^)

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sbank
But has anyone ever seen instructions from a planar manufacturer advise the owner to NOT use absorption or diffusion behind their speakers?

From point number 4 in my post here.

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/solid-state-amps-for-quad-esl-57/post?postid=1385630#1385630

Direct from the Quad ESL owners manual.

"As a general rule radiation of sound waves from the front and rear of the speaker should be restricted as little as possible. While corners and positions closer to the wall should be avoided. A corner position is often necessary for other types of loudspeakers because it accentuates the low frequencies, but such a position for the Quad will both reduce the bass seriously and cause deterioration of middle frequencies due to standing waves."


It is my opinion

if Planar/ESL companies advertise openly to place speakers well out from the front walls, their sales would drop. So if you place them up close to the front wall you better have something dealing with the back wave. This will vary by room.