1st pressed vinyl best ones to get ?

Agreed with the RL mastered version of LZ II.  Many original Robert Ludwig Sterling and Masterdisk mastered first pressings are the ones to get.

As a general rule, first pressings are best, and I generally dislike reissues, particularly the half-speed ones that sound phasey, thin, and compressed.  They often use equalization through RLC circuits that add phase distortions.  Later masterings usually fail due to degraded master tapes and/or loss of mastering techniques that were superior originally.

Getting a pressing from the country of the artist often works but there are many that don't follow that rule as far as the best pressing.  I think a better way is to look on Discogs and learn the parent record company, as the highest generation master tape usually stays in the country of the parent company for mastering, while lower generation tapes are sent overseas for mastering in that country.  I learned this when a US A&M pressing of Cat Stevens Tea for the Tillerman significantly beat a UK pink Island pressing.  Obviously the highest generation master tape was done by A&M, probably by Bernie Grundman.

Sometimes a second or third pressing can beat an original, but I usually look for the mastering house in the trailout.  If it comes from RL, Sterling, Masterdisk, Kendun, Precision, Bernie Grundman, The Mastering Lab, and other independent mastering houses, these are usually sonically superior.

RLawry- at the time Tea was released, Island Records was still an independent company in the UK and had no U.S. counterpart till a short time later, so US territory would have been llcensed. I had to look it up (because I just can’t keep all this stuff in my head), but the UK firsts were mastered by Lee Hulko, who if memory serves, founded Sterling. It wasn’t unusual for Island UK to use a US mastering facility. I’m not commenting on your preference for the A&M over the UK pink (label presumably, not a pink rim); just questioning whether we can construct rules that predict sonic outcomes and how your rule applies in the case you cited. My rule: listen to it! I do agree that the sign-off of one or another of the legendary mastering engineers in the deadwax is a telltale for good sound. Not trying to be a prickly, just seeking clarification of your example.

whart, thanks for the info.  So Island was the parent company but A&M either did a better mastering job, as they were wont to do, or received a higher generation master.  I agree that there are no hard and fast rules and many exceptions, but I stand on my argument that finding the parent record company is a much better predictor of optimal sonics than the country of the artist, based on, yes, listening.  Just listen to ELP for instance.  The UK Island pressings sound best except for the first album, for which I found a Cotillion that sounds far better.  There are also pressing variations within the same matrix, so sometimes this will lead to exceptions.  A good example is ELO.  There is no rhyme or reason for which pressing sounds best.  Sometimes US, sometimes UK.  Of course, we could argue all day what we think is best :-).

^^ I find the Pink Island of ELP's first LP to more lively than the Cotillion, smoother and more detailed at the same time. I've had several copies of each over the years and this comparison has been consistent. FWIW though the Cotillion issue is quite good.

Generally, a first pressing assures you of getting the earliest stampers made from the 'Mother' master stamper. Logic would indicate that this will be the best stamping. However, 1st pressings do not assure you that you are getting the 1st stampers as each stamper only can output a finite number of records before it is worn out so  1st pressings can also contain 2nd and 3rd stampers etc. depending on how many initial copies were to be pressed for sale. Therefore to get the closest to the Master you should look for the 1st STAMPER which may or may not be included in the matrix info on the 'dead-wax'. To go a bit further, not all pressings from the 1st ( or any ) stamper means that you are getting the best possible sound. Various factors influence the sound quality such as the quality of the vinyl used for each 'batch', the temperature of the stamper during that particular pressing, how clean the stamper was at the time of the individual LP's pressing (those pressed right after a cleaning will sound better than those pressed at the end of the cycle before the next cleaning), etc. There are many variables involved and I have heard many examples of much later pressings sounding better than early pressings based on where in the life-cycle of the stamper that particular LP was made. This is why 'Hot Stampers' demand such a premium - each LP must be LISTENED to and compared to others in order to evaluate which LP sounds best - and the 'stamper' numbers become relatively meaningless. For example, I have listened/compared probably over 50 copies of 'Casino Royale' and most are very good sounding. But the excellent ones are all over the place as far which stamper was used. And even among the best ones there are many sonic differences between Bass, imaging, naturalness of vocals and instruments etc. In closing, if you seek the best sounding LP's you can take 1 of 2 paths. Buy multiple copies of each LP, clean them, listen to each and note the qualities/shortcomings of each LP and do a process of elimination to get to the best one. Or pay the price for the Hot Stamper which is nothing more than having someone else do all the work and incur all the cost of buying the LP's and putting in the time to do the culling for you. There is no magic 'Matrix' numbers that will assure you of a great sounding copy. And unless you are very lucky, you will only find that elusive LP by doing the work yourself or paying someone the high price of having already done this for you.