Is New Vinyl Exempt from Loudness Wars?


I'm seeing new vinyl sold in many unexpected places these days.  

For those who have bought a lot of new vinyl,  I'm wondering if these tend to be mastered differently from similar newer CD  remasters that often show effects of the "Loudness Wars"?

Is it a mixed bag perhaps?   Much like CDs?

I wonder because if I knew there was a different mastering done for new vinyl I might consider buying some if I knew. 

But new vinyl is expensive and I would not want to get essentially the same end result in regards to sound quality as I would get with CD for much less.

Just wondering.
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Those DR ratings for Back In Black are a bit surprising but not fatal. I’ve always thought the CD copy I have to be a louder but otherwise good quality recording. Its a good example of why there is more to music than just absolute DR, especially in popular genres. I have many CDs especially newer remasters that have a lot to recommend even if absolute DR is not one of those things. Pop/rock/blues based amplified music does tend to be loud overall when heard live. Classical and other more acoustic forms tend to vary more. Those are the ones where bad DR tend to impact my enjoyment more. But like most here I suspect I still love a great recording with great DR.

Fact is if records were made to full DR potential, most players used today would not be able to track it and would probably even jump the grooves when teh real dynamics hit, like as used to be the case when the early Telarc digital recordings hit the market and would not play on any but the best vinyl setups of the time. With more dynamic CDs or digital a high power amp (Class D now offers smaller lighter and less expensive options for that) and A decent pair of speakers is all needed. Extracting the music from the medium is not as problematic these days with even decent quality digital found on a decent quality Iphone even.
Sorry to disagree but the DR for the CD of Back in Black is actually quite poor.  Terrible, really.  And nobody is saying dynamic range is all there is to the music but if it doesn't have any dynamics to it why bother?

the new Peter Gabriel went to 45 rpm

they seem to put great care into everything but the sound

I have original US

first press UK

Japanese

Classic Albums from 2002

all from analog sources

sound great (us originals a little murky)


not sure what these are but they sound dreadful

lots of detail and dynamics but the top end sounds shrill and way off on tonal balance - no warmth in midrange


Amy Winehouse

BTB, Frank, Lioness

US - bright

UK- a little less bright

new box - haven’t opened it yet


Allah Las - new album

shrill on the lp

tonally balanced on the cd


new Booker T all crap shrill


who lets this stuff out to the masses

"Geoffkait do you listen to Led Zeppelin through your Sony Walkman or through a regular stereo ? I have a problem with Led Zep. If I do put it on the Spl’s usually end up going high and I get in trouble."

Zeppelin CDs and cassettes as vintage as possible through Sony Walkman CD and Cassette players using vintage Sony Walkman Ultralight headphones. Is there such a thing as SPLs that are too high for Zeppelin?
Next up, Rolling Stones.

Rolling Stones vinyl

Vintage vinyl

The Rolling Stones Between the Buttons [vinyl] i 1967   12 10 15 lossless Unknown
The Rolling Stones Some Girls (Australia CUN 39108) i 1978   13 12 15 lossless Vinyl
Rolling Stones It's Only Rock 'n Roll 1974 14 11 15 lossless Vinyl
Rolling Stones Out Of Our Heads 1976         12 10 13 lossless Vinyl
Rolling Stones Aftermath i 1984         14 12 14 lossless Vinyl
Rolling Stones Let It Bleed 1969         13 12 14 lossless Vinyl
The Rolling Stones Tattoo You [vinyl] 1981 13 12 15 lossless Vinyl
The Rolling Stones Miss You [12" vinyl] i. 1978   15 14 16 lossless Unknown
The Rolling Stones Exile On Main St. [vinyl] i 1973   12 10 14 lossless Unknown

Recent vinyl

The Rolling Stones Wild Horses (Acoustic Version)/Dead Flowers [7" vinyl] i 2015   10 10 10 lossless Vinyl
The Rolling Stones Sweet Summer Sun - Hyde Park Live [vinyl] i 2013                 09 08 12 lossless Vinyl
The Rolling Stones A Bigger Bang [Vinyl] i 2005   10 09 12 lossless Unknown
The Rolling Stones Doom And Gloom [Vinyl] i 2012   10 10 10 lossless Unknown

Here are some comparisons of CD vs Vinyl

The Rolling Stones Bridges to Babylon [vinyl] 1997   12 11 14 lossless Unknown
The Rolling Stones Bridges to Babylon (2009 Remaster) i 2009   06 05 07 lossless Unknown
The Rolling Stones Bridges to Babylon i 1997   07 06 08 lossless Unknown

The Rolling Stones A Bigger Band (Special Edition--CD only) i 2005   06  05  08 lossless Unknown
The Rolling Stones A Bigger Bang [Vinyl] i 2005   10  09  12 lossless Unknown

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