importance of phono cartridge


Is a cartridge more important to total system sonics than a turntable/tonearm, will a $1600 TT/tonearm with a high end cartridge sound better than a $5000 TT/tonearm with a average cartridge
dsremer
Great post, Dougdeacon! Very little that I can add; but to further strengthen the point, let's look at the issue of wow or speed stability. One of the biggest strengths of superior turntables is their very good, in some cases almost (and I stress almost) perfect, speed stability; conversely, one of the main problems with lesser quality turtables is their less than adequate speed stability. We tend to think of wow as obvious fluctuations in pitch, but as with most things in audio, by the time the problem becomes obvious, you can rest assured that it's been there to a lesser, but probably no less important degree. Very, very subtle speed instability affects soundstaging, image stability, bass tightness and depth, and pacing. In fact, while I am no engineer, and others might have a more technically rooted explanation, to my ears, the reason that CD playback is often sited a having superior bass performance than vinyl, is that it has absolutely perfect speed stability; the one musicality related area where CD has it all over vinyl. Anyway, the point is that no matter how good or expensive the cartridge is, it can not negate the ill effects of speed instability.
Reylon,
Good examples. Here are two more:
Teres 265/TriPlanar VII/ADC XLM Mk II ($175 in its day): sublime
H-K/Rabco ST-8/Shelter 901 or ZYX Airy: ridiculous

Nsgarch,
Oscar Wilde might not have said it better, but he would have said it shorter!
His gems are short, but some of his plays, poems, and stories were long... winded.
Thanks guys, Here is what I have done
Just bought a ZYX AIRY 3Xs
Have a VPI Scout on top of a GINGKO CLOUD 11
Through VHA pulsar cables to Audio Research PH5(phono pre)
through VHA pulsar cables to a First Sound Presence MK11
through ZCABLE live ref cables to Mark Levinson 336
through CATCABLE silver speaker cables to OHM 300MK11
NEW cartridge to arrive tomorrow looks like my next upgrade may have to be a better TT/ARM
Dennis