Suggestions for FM Antenna Mounting


Hi All,

I recently got my MD ST-2 omnidirectional whip antenna mounted outside near the top of the roof and it's working pretty well overall. However, I'm now able to just barely pull in a couple stations that I would like to get more cleanly. (Couldn't get them at all before, so yes, I'm being greedy here.) A couple questions:

1) The roof is metal. Would mounting the antenna a few feet higher make any significant difference (by getting it away from the roof)? Would mounting the antenna to the metal flashing (i.e., grounding the antenna's base to the roof) help? If I want to put it on a tower or high pole, how much improvement might there be? I live on top of a hill already, so unless there is an issue about the ground being in close proximity, I'm not sure it will help much. It's currently about 12 feet off the ground, so would say 20 feet help? 30 feet?

2) Are there any omni antennas that are significantly better than the ST-2? I doubt it, but thought I'd ask. I'm hesitant to go to a directional antenna because I get stations from a lot of different directions and I don't want to bother with a rotator.

By the way, tuner is an MD Etude. I've also tried an inline signal amplifier without any luck. It makes the signal a little stronger on the signal meter, but doesn't improve the audio quality at all. Thanks for the help.
karls
Ivan's suggestion is a good one, but not everyone can afford the types of antennas that they sell and / or want such a large directional antenna. All of the info that i've presented comes from both verifiable sources and well over 20+ years worth of reading and experimenting with RF / various antenna designs.

Personally, if i wanted the "ultimate" in performance, i wouldn't be looking at ANY Yagi antenna i.e. the design that Antenna Performance uses for their top models. The cubical quad is the only way to go IF looks and / or convenience are not a factor. While it is a higher maintenance design, the gain on the cubical quad is appr 66% higher than a Yagi of identical element count. As far as i'm concerned, a 66% gain in performance while retaining the same appr boom length is a "no-brainer".

As far as building your own antenna, modifying existing designs for better performance or optimizing the mounting location of what you already have, i would suggest picking up a copy of the American Radio Relay League's ( aka ARRL ) "Antenna Handbook". This book is worth its' weight in gold to those that like to tinker with such things. If you would like to do any of the above but don't want to become a long-term "antenna engineer" i.e. make the investment in this book ( probably well over $30 ), you can probably request a copy of this from your local library. This book has tons of different designs, explanations, formulas, etc... As far as the products that the folks at Antenna Performance make available to the public, i'm quite certain that the basic designs and the design principles can be found within this book.

As far as antennas go, my personal experimentation with both commercial and home-brew FM antennas has shown that a resonant 1/4 wavelength ground plane is hard to beat when mounted out in the open. As luck would have it, such a design is both easy to make and small in stature. If you've ever wondered why you can pick up stations in your car that you can't hear real well in your house, that is because the antenna on your car is pretty much what i just suggested i.e. a 1/4 wave resonant ground plane. Now picture the same antenna performance of your car mounted 20' - 40' higher with nothing around to obstruct the signal and you'll have some idea of what i'm talking about.

A 3/4 wave ground plane will also work well, but is both harder to make and support and three times as large. Any other wavelength will require more effort to build and will be more complicated to design. I'm specifically referring to the use of loading coils, baluns, etc... Such a design may not be as efficient depending on how those elements are constructed and implimented into the design.

There are many different ways to construct a ground plane, but the easiest is to have one vertical radiator for the "hot" with three or four radiators making up the "ground plane". If this sounds familiar, it is because it probably is. Such designs are very common-place and what were used for CB base antennas in the past.

For FM use, the vertical should be appr 30" long for "middle of the band" tuning. If you want better performance at the lower end of the FM band, make the vertical appr 32" long. If you want better performance at the top end of the band, make the antenna 28" long. The bigger the diameter of the element used for the vertical, the better off you'll be in terms of wide bandwidth and picking up more stations.

All of the ground radials should be of appr 32" long and should be fanned out evenly around the base of the antenna. The radials can be arrayed so that they stick straight out horizontally or droop at a 45" angle. One approach may work better than the other depending on mounting height, surrounding objects and the terrain in your individual area.

This design works FAR superior to the Magnum / Metz / Fanfare model and smokes several other commercially available models that i tested. The tuning of the antenna is far more resonant and maintains that tuning over a much wider bandwidth than the Magnum / Metz / Fanfare models. What this translates to in plain English is better reception with the ability to pull in more stations with a lower noise floor. After all, there is a reason why so many manufacturers choose this style of antenna in the communications market. Efficiency, ease of construction and "reasonable" size are three prime factors.

With the above in mind, it is beyond me why antenna manufacturers haven't produced such a design for the FM market ??? I had plans to do this very thing, but just haven't gotten around to it. I have built several prototypes, done a lot of testing and come up with a finalized design, but coming up with specific parts that i need to sell these on a higher volume basis has been a problem. I may still end up doing this if i can get my act together. Once again, i've got more projects to tackle than motivation to get them done. Maybe if i logged off the puter more often and..... : ) Sean
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Sean,
Excellent. I'm going to try this asap (which may be weeks) and put it as high as I can reasonably get it, and I'll give you feedback as soon as I get it running. One other question: Does the presence of trees have any significant influence on the signal? I don't want to bury it in a deep dark forest, but there are a few trees around the house that I'd rather not try to get above. (Not only to keep the tower height reasonable, but also to minimize the risk of lightning strikes.) Thanks again for the help.
Most RF theory teaches that trees are relatively "harmless" in terms of signal blocking, but i'm not of that school. Since one can literally "load up" a tree and use it as an antenna ( if you know how ), it is obviously capable of absorbing and / or radiating signal. Having said that, i would not worry about it too much. Try to get the antenna into a place that is both as high and as open as is reasonable. There is always going to be "better", but chances are, this will be "good enough" for 90% of what you want to achieve. That last 10% is what costs so darn much to achieve.

Drop me an email when you get a chance. Maybe we can help each other out : ) Sean
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Sean,
I'm not questioning your knowledge. I just found APS easy to deal with (got an APS 9a for about $150) and 2 hours of a local installation professional's time to get great reception. If the cubical quad is a more advanced technology, that's part of the hobby and I am glad you opened our eyes to it. Ok, buddy?
No problem Ivan. Sorry if i seemed defensive or came across as attacking you or your suggestion. I have NO doubt in my mind that using such an antenna as what you suggested would provide far better performance than the suggestions that i made. However, i also think that the suggestions that i made have the potential to perform quite well for a much larger percentage of FM users. Judging by many of the posts that i've read here and over at AA, my thoughts were that a large directional antenna array is well beyond the means or desires of most users. As such, i tried to provide them with an alternative means to good performance while keeping things very cheap and very simple.

As far as APS goes, i'm glad to hear that you are happy with both their products and customer service. I'm sure that there are interested individuals out there and hearing your words of support for both the product and company may help make up their mind to take the step to do business with them. My hat is off to anyone that can provide above average products and customer service. Sean
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