When will the "Madness" stop


I have spend 10 years and an amount of money I don't even want to think about on the quest for the 'perfect' system.

I have gone through at least 20 of each component category (CD, Vinyl, Pre, Amp, Speakers, Wires, Gadgets,....). When I look through a Stereophile magazine... it is amazing.... I have had almost one piece from each advertiser.

This thread (my first)... is to ask all you audio experts... those of you who have settled down on a system... stopped the Madness.... what system did you finally find 'close enough' to being perfect.

Here is my answer:

Metronome T2i CD Player, Conrad Johnson 17LS pre, VTL Signature 185 Mono Blocks, EgglestonWorks Rosa speakers, and
Cardas Golden Reference cables.

With many good answers here... maybe this can save some of the others some TIME and MONEY. Especially the time.. since it is so precious !

Thanks ... and enjoy the music !

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Good sound has more to do with your mind than your system. A little contentment goes a long way. My $30,000 doesn't sound like live music but neither does Joe Audiophiles $200,000 system. Enjoy the music and stop listening to the equipemnt.
Will I ever upgrade again? Yes! Will it sound like a concert at the Weidner Center? No! Will I still be happy with it? Yes!
I'm pretty close to finalizing all but digital source(s). I have two systems, one in the living room, one in the study. Everything but the cables and the phono cartridge were purchased used. It's not a super high-end system, but I now happily spend my money on LPs and CDS, not on components. Further component investments will be restricted to mods, like upgrading the stock crossover parts.

LR System

Technics SP-10 MK II with Grace 707 arm, Reson Reca cartridge, mounted on McCurdy broadcast base. (1970s; cartridge 2001)

Sony DVP-S9000ES CD/SACD/DVD player (currently away getting the DACs bypassed!) (2001)

SAE T101 AM-FM tuner (1986)

Meitner PA-6iPlus preamp (1989; factory upgraded 2000)

Meitner MTR-101 monoblocs (1990)

Tannoy System 15 DMT studio monitors (1993)

Study

Thorens TD-125 MK II turntable with Signet XK50 arm and Reson Reca cartridge (1970s, 1980s; cartridge 2001)

Crown FM-2 tuner (early 1980s?)

Sony CDP-X779ES CD player (1992)

Bryston 11B preamp (1989)

Meitner STR-55 power amp (1989)

Tannoy System 12 DMT studio monitors (1992)

Cables (1999-2001)

Mixture of DH Labs SilverSonic and Canare StarQuad and XLO 1200 Pro and budget Cardas

When I (finally) buy a house, I shall invest in room treatment, but except for a later generation digital front end, I have no plans to upgrade.

Happy listening all!

Hi Sandle:

You say>"I have spend 10 years and an amount of money I don't even want to think about on the quest for the 'perfect' system. I have gone through at least 20 of each component category (CD, Vinyl, Pre, Amp, Speakers, Wires, Gadgets,....). When I look through a Stereophile magazine... it is amazing.... I have had almost one piece from each advertiser."

There is no "perfect system" so you can spend a lot of time looking for it if they convince you it's out there.

I do not want to sound too cynical but I think the primary thing the magazine is set up to accomplish is just what you describe. It is a testament to the power and savvy of modern advertisers and marketing (they know how to set a hook). I think, if the average person wants to "stop the madness", as you put it, he would do much better putting a system together if he never looked at them (the big mags) and used the time listening and with other sources of information.

I was just looking at M. Jones' book on valve amps and he quotes the old line "there is nothing new under the sun” (Morgen Jones, Valve Amplifiers, p.110), when talking about tube circuits. This is not completely true of course (and probably the most true with tubes) but, the more I look at it, it is astounding just how true it is for audio electronics. It is also amazing how good the music can be using electronics that are, for the most part, 70 years old. This makes the constant recycling of the same old circuits in new boxes a little disconcerting and misleading.

In any event, one way to help “stop the madness” is simply to get the constant siren call of unending hype out of your ears. I think it becomes much more straightforward without it. Think of the fashion industry for a moment. The "flavor of the moment" is constantly changed for no other reason than to generate sales. The most important thing, for the industry, is that what was "in" 2 years ago, is now passe. No part of the audio industry is intersted in the time tested and proven. It would stop sales in its tracks. And so the best falls out of view, completely obscured by what is new.

This approach is not for everyone of course and I don’t mean to imply that everyone who looks at those mags falls for them. I know some of the folks in this thread haven’t.... But a lot of people do.

To answer your question I have been listening to a set of Oris horns and a simple homemade Set amp/pre (300b) with a variety of sources, cd and vinyl, (total 6.5k w/o source) for a couple months and could live on very nicely with them.

I remain,
I find it all depends on you. If you are into the hobby to continue to learn, experiment, grow (as I am), then NO, the madness never stops. I don't consider it madness, however,I consider it passion.
-aj