Why do YOU love Vinyl/or hate vinyl


I just responded to the thread on how many sources do you have ( shotgunning tonight) and got me wondering why I love vinyl so much? Have a very good digital side on both my main system and my headphone system as well that was set up for Redbook playback (headphone system) only utilising my vast 1,000 CD collection, enjoyed it for about a year, added a turntable and haven't used it since. My love of vinyl has been with me for 55 years, buying and playing, setting up my tables , matching preamps and enjoying the fruit of my labor. I believe my love of vinyl is a simple one, it stemmed from the hands on, need to tinker and adjust that I was born with, it's a very physical attraction that I just can not resist, it satisfies a lot of needs for me and in some way is that mistress that I maintain. My turntable is massive and so easy to look at, I can touch it and get more out of it, I can read about the artist and get info while I listen to an album, I can swap out a cartridge and change the tone and in the day the album covers served as a rolling tray to roll a joint. I love vinyl, but absolutely understand while others don't. I also envy people like uberwaltz that have and use so many sources, wish I could. What say you?
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Showing 4 responses by rbstehno

I think I’ve had a dozen different turntables in my past and have an album collection of 40 years. I just sold my Hanss T-60 tt and everything associated with it except for my albums, which I’m selling now. Just because you buy an album doesn’t mean it will sound good. Some of the best music and most of the worst sounding music comes from analog from a tt. It boils down to recordings.
During the past several years in the form of hires/SACD/DSD/MQA, I prefer digital the majority of the time. Also, the latest dacs are far superior to dacs of just a few years ago.
A lot of vinyl people state they prefer vinyl to digital because they can look at the album liner notes while listening. Have any of these people looked at or used Roon? Probably not. Roon gives you much more info and at the same time gives me current updates on the artist and current tour stops.
The old digital used to be very harsh and it still is if not played on decent equipment. Digital will always be more quiet and have more dynamic range over albums. 
The biggest vinyl drawbacks for me were:
Most albums are from the past, most of the newer (last 20 years) jazz and rock artists I listen to don’t produce vinyl,
albums are noisy over time, it costs substantially more to get great sound out of vinyl, and the hassle of the maintenance.
The best sound I have heard from vinyl have come from good quality mono pressings, much better sounding than their stereo pressings
Mijostyn-you did an illegal thing and you’re bragging about it online? No different than a bank robber bragging about his heist on Facebook.
Lalitk- some of the worst sounding albums are from many decades ago too. Most of the remastered material I own is better than the original release unless the original was full range. My biggest gripe of the older material is all the compression they had (still do in analog to some extent) to perform, which is why analog sounds so smooth/non-fatiguing. 
I’ve been listening to Fourplay all morning using my PS Audio DS dac and it sounds as good as any vinyl, smooth, quiet, and with dynamic range. I have always liked DSD, and since the DS dac converts redbook to DSD, I can see why this sounds as good as it does, all at the same time looking at Roon’s liner notes
Mijostyn-here is your statement: All my optical discs have been transferred to the hard drive. I took them all to Bull Moose Music and traded them in for....Records! $1500.00 worth. 
you copied all of your discs to a hard drive then sold them. This is illegal as hell. This has nothing to do with streaming, this have everything to do with copying, keeping a copy, then selling the discs.
also, why would you tape a digital recording when you can play it at anytime? If you were listening to a one time recording, then yes, recording to r2r makes sense.
i have owned a few 15 ips r2r decks, the Otari 5050 and the pioneer 901. The pioneer only sounded good at 15ips whereas the Otari sounded great at both 7.5 and 15ips. So you need to spend some cash to get a good r2r that does 15ips and then you’re going to pay a premium for tape. After a while, I just didn’t see a need for a r2r.
uberwaltz-like I mentioned, I've had 2 very good r2r decks in the last few years and I have recorded digital music to them. The Otari has very good specs and sounded very good but wasn't any better than straight out of a dac. I bought the r2r to record my vinyl so in case I got rid of my tt or my vinyl albums would become noisy, I would have analog recordings of my albums. It was much cheaper to rebuy the bad album than to buy the tape to record at 15ips