why a 75 dollar blue ray smokes all 2k CD players and any turntable???

Funny story,
I posted a pic of my turntable spinning an lp for a social media fan site for a specific band.I got a response by a guy," OH my it sounds so much better then a cd" my response was basically its all up for debate and in many ways digital is superior on paper and I enjoy both.This is his response.. ENJOY...

interesting that the world of true audio quality has been grossly mis-represented in the market place. This has mainly been driven by Hi-Fi Press and marketing vogue that perpetuate the myths that what makes a great audio system is some exotic, very expensive speaker cables, a 'high end ' player and some exotic amp. Its also true that vintage audio products like valve amps and vinyl are creeping back into fashion - more of a symptom of the issue that audio quality has for the most part reached an impasse.

The main culprit - loudspeakers represent the main ceiling on audio quality and this really has not changed for many decades. Put simply if you change the speakers to something that really does the sound transduction step (the most compromised part of the audio chain) much better then you begin to see the leap in improvement that is possible. For the most part the amp (as long as it is solid state and has decent power output) and the cable (as long as it is something a bit thicker than human hair) makes little to no audible difference to audio quality.

The type of CD player does not matter either, as the speakers introduce a degree of distortion and degradation that commonly outweighs any differences my many orders of magnitude. We have had really good reviews by the audio press but they still don't want to admit that the latest exotic looking £2000 CD player really does nothing special but helps sell magazines so perpetuating the scam! Ridiculous really when you can get a BD player for £40 that trumps the CD spec in every aspect! Don't get me started on vinyl!S

oleschool10-17-2020 12:32am

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djones51 Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 4,947 posts 10-17-2020 at 12:27pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete You're getting some things confused he said as long as you're using a decent SS amp and cable you will notice little to no audible difference into the same speakers. The other part was you would notice no difference between a $2000 CD transport and a basic BD player, I agree if they are both used with the same DAC. I understand most don't agree with this but technology has made most components interchangeable except for the speakers. Your playback chain is only as good as the piece that produces the most distorion and nowadays that's speakers by a pretty good margin. Not to say there are amps and DACs, transports etc.. that are worse than a speaker the Border Patrol DAC comes to mind and a number of tube components.
djones51 Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 4,947 posts 10-17-2020 at 02:01am Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete He's correct in his assessment that the biggest challenge anymore is the speaker not the DAC or amplifier etc.. which have exponentially less distortion than speakers. Most DACs and amps if they measure reasonably well are indistinguishable in blind tests.
djones51 Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 4,947 posts 10-17-2020 at 02:02am Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete Vinyl is fine for nostalgia reasons .
djones51 Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 4,947 posts 10-17-2020 at 01:01am Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete I don't get it?? You do understand he's right.
djones51 Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 4,947 posts 10-17-2020 at 01:08pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete Another point he made about speaker tech not changing for decades is true in the audiophile world of passive speakers. There are companies driving the future of high fidelity like Buchardt, Kii, Dutch and Dutch, GGNTKT, Genelec and others with active designs incorporating DSP. I would also say the CD player isn't as relevant anymore either music reproduction is moving to streaming.
djones51 Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 4,947 posts 10-17-2020 at 04:51pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete Perhaps some are interested in $300 Topping DACs or $30,000 active speakers using DSP. Maybe some see the future of high fidelity there. We can't have an opinion?
djones51 Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 4,947 posts 10-18-2020 at 02:32pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete I'm not against spending money lord knows I've spent plenty on gear. I like the hobby, I would like to see more people interested and in my opinion the way forward is with companies and designs that are looking to the future not the past. In my opinion, and before some get their panties in a wad it's only my opinion, the future isn't mega $$ cables and $5000 CD transports but self contained active speakers that need no more than an ethernet connection or a control box. There are old established and new cutting edge companies in Europe barging down this path. I have to agree with cd318 it's as if when I post my opinions people think I'm attacking them, sorry to deflate their ego but I don't care what they say I'm more interested in hopefully getting some to start looking and better yet listening to some of these new companies and technologies.

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