Which would be better, the Paradigm Persona 3Fs or the Dynaudio Focus 60 XD speakers?


It appears that the Persona speakers have a superior diaphragm material. On the other hand, the Dynaudio speakers appear to have a superior crossover and amplification solution.

Which is better? A superior diaphragm material controlled by a generic amp or a generic diaphragm material controlled by a superior crossover and amp combination?
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Showing 2 responses by nitewulf

Haha...that's a tough thing to answer actually.  I haven't heard the new Focus speakers, but Dynaudio doesn't use their best tweeter here, which is odd given the top model is pretty expensive.  I heard the Contour 20 and the Persona 3F, which are more comparable I think.  The new Contour series utilizes Dynaudio's best tweeter (Esotar 2)/ Usually Dynaudio tweeters have a smooth, silky sound, they are very good.  The 3F tweeter and midrange units are on a different level though and sound extremely high resolution.  It's like they cut through the air.
I think the XD 60 may have better bass response, the 3F is pretty small comparatively.  The XD60 will also allow you to correct for any room related issues with the DSP.  I would audition the Contour 30, XD60  and the 3F if I were you.  You would save money with the active speakers obviously, but they are also best for digital sources IMO, as any analog source would also be converted to digital, so there'd be no point.
My initial post was worded poorly. I meant I only heard the C20, but the comparable speaker in the new Contour line would be the C30. To your point, as far as hardware goes, there really wouldn't be a cost reduction by getting rid-off hardwired circuits, as it'll be taken over by internal amplification and DSP circuits, as you can see from the added cost of the XD series speakers. The original Focus was Dynaudio's entry level line, and priced well below other lines
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As to if more manufacturers should focus on it, I believe European brands have been doing this for a while now (Audio Physic and some non "high end" brands), it's just that, they are not very well known in America.  American high end brands are perhaps a bit behind in this area.  For boutique manufacturers, they may lack the electronics and DSP know how to make good sounding digital crossovers, as you need significant software engineering as well as acoustic design knowledge.  So I believe it's difficult for small operations to hire the subject matter experts, cause they'd ask for big money.  Hence you see a big company like Paradigm doing this.  You get the best of both worlds with the 9H I think, active DSP controlled subwoofer section and passive mid/tweeter sections.

For the original question of which is more important? I think it all depends on the implementation.  Like I mentioned in one of my other threads, I heard the Endeavor Audio E3 speakers recently, and while utilizing pretty much off the shelf drivers, and a very basic cabinet design...the quality of sound these guys came up with is just incredible.  It's such a sweet, great sounding speaker! 

So it's all in the overall design.  In the future if bigger electronics companies start licensing out DSP circuits, you may see more boutique high end brands utilizing these circuits in theit designs.