When a Reviewer "likes" something


... what does that mean in your opinion. I read in one of the last Stereophile mags a comment from Mr. Atkinson where he wrote about the differences in "opinions" in forums or in printed mags. After all he ended with the argument, a component is good when a reviewer likes it.
Isn't is more helpful, when a reviewer knows something about a real tone reproduction? Or is it ok, when he used every month another CD or LP he got for free, a kind of music nearly no one wants to listen to?
Harry Pearson used in the 90's always the same records for his reviews but that was an exception I think.
What is it worth for you when - for example - Mr. Dudley/Fremer/Valin/HP .... "likes" something? Do you have the same "taste" they have?
I know it is possible to like a Turntable even when that unit can't hold the proper speed, or is extremely sensitive to any influences, there are endless recommendations written about such units...what is it worth for you?
Atkinson for example measures units, some have top datas but they can sound very boring, far away from the real thing, some have no top datas, some "tests" are shortened because a unit can reach a area which can be pretty dangerous (see one of the latest Agostino units, just as an example) but they are rated Class A in recommendations anyway....
When someone "knows" what is right or not, then his "liking" is only a personal opinion which is more or less uninteresting or?
Most customers (not all of course) would prefer to know what a unit is really able to do sonically, or not? Would knowledge destroy the joy of Hardware rolling? Or is there a reason why reviewers use low efficiency speakers when they have a tube amp for review (for example Lamm ML2.1/ML2.2 with Magico Speakers)? Is the matching "expensive + expensive" the proper way to show competence?
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There ARE negative reviews out there, even accidental ones like the embarrassing D'Agostine meltdown debacle...two of my fave Brit mags, Hifi Choice and Hifi News have a seemingly more balanced approach, including a "likes and dislikes" blurb, along with stuff put through a "listening panel" of somewhat sophisticated panelists. I still read Absolute and S'Phile out of habit, and other than feeling some of these dudes have very questionable musical tastes, I take it well salted.
I don't get attacking reviewers...commercial magazines are entertainment, and if you're not entertained and don't agree with the reviewers, DON'T READ THEM.
I took 3rd place in Senior Longboarding at the NY State surfing campionships...albeit 10 years ago when I was only 52, and consider myself part of the New Old. I'll be ripping around on my Triumph Bonneville T100 later today, playing guitar for hours, listening to my well tempered hifi, and later hitting an interesting restaurant with my hot attorney girlfriend. Young people can BITE ME.
All of my gear has been the subject of good or great reviews at some point, so I do feel good about that. I will reiterate the fact of seemingly more balanced reviews from What HiFi and HiFi News...just a different vibe there.
OK...I just read this entire thread and have concluded the following: "IMHO" is an utterly overused and unnecessary acronym, so please stop using it. The "ah-ha!" factor in recognizing bias among reviwers means you read this stuff too carefully, and I (because I must be wonderful) can appreciate writers who write well even if I don't agreee with them. It is amazing how many self-important audio geeks "toss the babies out with the bathwater" by stomping their feet and declaring NO MORE (fill in magazine name here)...sort of like not liking to watch television because there is "too much crap on it" which only says you're maybe too lazy to sort through it to find the good stuff, or perhaps so hogtied by your opinions you can't move. That's just sad. An example of this is stating that you KNOW tube gear is BAD BAD BAD, ignoring the fact that lots of experienced listeners think (although it's often based on older design ideas) it SOUNDS great, thus obviating its badness and making it your personal issue, IMHO.
I know some successful and highly regarded Grammy winning producers, musicians, pastry chefs, sea captains (the Grammys for Pastry Chef and Sea Captain are relatively obscure), and ner-do-wells who like the sound of modern (?) tube amps. Like them a LOT. This may be off topic, but but I'm so damaged from reading the convoluted and florid lengthy responses that the wheels have come off my topic specific response reflex.
Is there an acronym for "non humble opinion?" IMNHO? I dispute the "accuracy" issue as I don't think at reasonable non clipping levels any decent tube amp sounds innacurate, nor does a good SS amp...both should sound great. I insist! I like good digital AND analog, which is not hard to do. I think one reason analog is interesting is the fact that it works at all, so I'm with Raul on that...sort of...and note that SS proponents are often more sharply analytical and strident, and tube freaks are warm and natural...you want a dominatrix in a rubber nurses uniform or a cute hippy chick in a hot tub? (rhetorical question only)
Sitting in one of many disparate seats with thousands of figgity humans listening to an orchestra, weirdly, will always be nothing like being at home with your little hifi. Who knew? And does anybody adjust their senses when at home, or do you merely sit there unsatisfied that the oboes sound somehow different when not being bounced off the bald pate of the fat guy in the seat in front of you? I'm amazed that anybody can get obsessed with "references" when those ideals of tone and scale are all over the map. I saw the Sleeping Beauty ballet in Boston last weekend from the 3rd row and the orchestra sounded beautiful and played perfectly...then yesterday I cranked up an LP of the same music (Philly by Ormandy) and was blown away again by an utterly different sounding majesty...just with no dancers and more elbow room. Reviewers have their ideals stuck in their heads, not your head, and as long as they write well and publish some cool pics and specs, I'll read it. Now I have to get back to that young hippy chick in my hot tub...she's getting "pruny."
Since English might not be Raul's first language, I'd like to recommend two words he might consider becoming familiar with: Redundancy, and brevity. I'm a giver...
Any poster claiming "golden ears" is simply silly, and cloaking insulting and weirdly condescending opinion in "factoids" and phony courtesy is merely tedious.
I think it's clear that most tube amp owners started with SS amps, and switched to tubes as they liked the SOUND of them, and maybe switched back...or not. Raul assumes these people need to be alerted to some Technology Update before they foolishly waste any more time with things he's deemed innacurate...a classic Church Lady.
What's wrong with canned worms? The ebb and flow of free minded discussion shouldn't be restricted by topic or context...it forces me to pay attention, sit up straight, and spit out my gum. Nobody wants that...
Good dealers. Really. I think the issue with high end shops is they refuse to engage the public with any creative energy. Almost NO effort is put into actual music (very interesting musicians are available to play at their shops...for promotion only in many cases, or they could charge a small cover), seminars for gear heads, promoting and sponsoring concerts...they simply don't do these things, they don't care...they're LAME. They cater to their small world of the already converted, whine when they lose a sale to the internet, and pretty much get back exactly what they put into it. A nearby VERY high end place doesn't use a computerized mailing list to let you know about the rare occasions when they actually have a gear rep coming around, and one of their sales dudes once expressed how he hates the "audio societies" members as they're too opinionated or something. They also are often utterly clueless about local shows featuring world class musicians. Don't care, don't know...and they will remain that way as that's how it's always been.