What song best sums up the previous year?

Well this is my THIRD attempt to join this thread: My vote for song summing up the year for the country is B.Y.O.B(Bring Your Own Bombs) by System of a Down. With a rippeng roar of "Why do they always send the poor". "why doesn't the President fight the war, why do they always send the poor" pretty much sums up the WAR. Well Nrchy wether it's Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Wolfy, it seems that the Neo Cons have taken over the Gov, especially sence Bush says his not beholden to laws enacted by Congress, for things like torture. When will this country stop invading others under false pretenses for Wall Street. Whatever happen to Kennedy's idea of no Pax American inflicted by weapons of war, now we see this as the only solution. SAD

Personally though for me it was a good year, with attending a SUN Dance at the sacred pipestone quarries. I caught the last three days of dancing, and for me those Sun Dance songs were the best of my year! I can still feel that drum beat when I think back to dancing in +100 degree heat. To me this is where it's at. Dennis Banks(AIM) said that the soldiers should just replace their American Flags with Bechtel Logos, kind of sums it up for me. True it's to the point and Black and White but the Internet is not really the medium for true communication. Nrchy I too have wondered if I belong here too, but feel it's just as good as being a catalyst as anything else.

and to think it was Martin Luther King Jr's Day. Remember that "they went after King after he spoke out on Vietnam!"

It is quite clear that the facts of history are missed on some of us more than others. How many Nations have adopted democratic systems because of our intervention? Does anybody know? I do know that the number of oppressive regimes we have supported outweighs it by a landslide. SO to use WWII as your straw man and say that we are the answer is quite naive. Sure I don't like terrorism, but where do we attack? At the root of the problem or the branch? Surely Iraq is not the root, I mean even Osama wouldn't work with Saddam(He didn't find his country a good example of an Islamic state).

Surely Tomryan you have heard of PNAC, haven't you? The plan is to invade Iran, or at least that was the goal. Afganistan was on the books before 9/11. Then Iraq, b/c as you put it "the weakest". Surely it was b/c of the bombing from the Clinton era, which nocked out most of the infra-strcture that we are now trying to rebuild. So, I don't see Iran happening any time soon. I do agree with you that the Iraqi people are finding it hard to adjust to a democratic system though. To quote an old Marine I still think "War is a Racket"

Well Danlib, I guess we did liberate them in WWII. AS far as oppressive regimes we have supported the time frame is longer than the 60's and 70's as Tomryan puts it. How about the CIA's coup of Arbenz in Guatemala in the 1950's. This ended Guatemala's youn Democracy and lead into more Military rulers. Chile in the 70's with the coup to get Pinochet in. The Contras' anybody remember the Iran Contra Affair. As far as Saddam in the 80's we gave him the gas to battle the Iranians but saw no problem with him attacking the Kurds' either. Let us not forget that we also gave him the green light to go into Kuwait in the first place. I don't think the slap on the hand would work, though:). As far as Afghanistan goes, I think we started too late to REALLY find Osama, and I am sure you will never see him at a trial either. Who cares why Osama thinks that Iraq is important, or why Iran's current leader is a nut. Neither one of them has weapons of mass destruction. So Tomryan do any of those people hold any weight in your mind they don't in mine. Ever heard of Scott Ritter, an actual UN inspector who was in Iraq before the invasion. Ritter was going around the US trying to educate the people to the fact that Iraq had no weapons. Why not focus on a country who does, and admits that they are pointed at us: CHINA ;)-~

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." -Hermann Goering, NAZI Luftwaffa chief of staff, sentenced to death at Nuremburg warcrimes trials (committed suicide)

Also, "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this Land, it will be in the Guise of fighting a Foreign Enemy" James Madison