Teo XLR


I notice liquid cables are being talked about a bit at the moment so thought I'd share my experience.

I come from a somewhat cable sceptic background. After playing with modest cables I felt there were differences but it was all pretty subtle. The best I came across were Anti-cables which with everything I've seen seemed to offer slightly greater clarity. They've stayed in my system for the past 3 years as it's evolved.

I run an Emm Labs, Muse amp (very underrated)and Kharma speakers with just an XLR between the electronics. I was offered the opportunity to try a Teo XLR in an unfamiliar system a little while ago and was surprised at the difference it made so at the earliest opportunity I tried them in mine.

I've had them for over a week now and have been surprised at just how big a difference they've made. In a system that I've been very happy with the greater decay and body to notes is a revelation. They've added a more natural perspective that I didn't know I was missing. Very impressive.
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To compare Anti Cables to TEO would be like comparing a Nissan Versa to an Infinity G37. They are at total different price points and one should be much better than the other. I am not saying more money means better but these are not close in price. After blind testing over 400 different cables over 30 years with 5 other guys we have found in our opinion a much more emotionally involving XLR than TEO or Audio Magic and yes we did test both those cables. Most XLR cables lack resolution and then they seem unemotional.
In my opinion there really needs to be some technology behind a cable and a proper factory. Most guys on this forum know enough about cables to build their own cable but will that cable really evoke emotion; take your system to the next level. Will you truly get lost in the moment and forget about your equipment; not if you are building the cable yourself in my opinion. I have owned several brands of “liquid cables”. The number one problem I noticed was that 2 identical cables from the same manufacturer did not sound exactly the same. Second was, what liquid was actually in the cable; most manufacturers do not even want to tell you so can my dog die if he bites it or even worse can my son die if it leaks out? Last but certainly not least; are they being built in a proper factory or someone’s garage and how do they sound? A properly made XLR is not just a single ended cable with different connectors, it actually requires a complete different design and again when you are dealing with garage cable designers you are getting a garage cable. Why pay top dollar for a cable that is built in a garage/house when there are serious companies investing time and money into R&D. I have personally only found 1 XLR manufacturer that evokes emotion into my balance amps; I mean put me in the recording studio. Again these are just my opinions and they may not apply to everyone but if I am investing serious money into a cable that company needs to have a factory and technology.
After over 30 years of testing cables we do not spend much time with entry level models anymore. We have found in our testing that if you are after real emotion it will not happen at entry level so most of our testing is done on the top 2 models of a manufacturer’s cable. Just for the record I am not saying that some entry level cables are not really good but for us to achieve an emotional experience in our systems it always took upper end models of cables.
What I noticed is if you have a definitive opinion on this forum you are a bad guy. I am not saying, JPS, Nordost, Harmonic Technology and several other well manufactured cables don’t sound great because they do. What I am saying is; I prefer one cable manufacturer over all the rest and my search for cables is over. I am also saying I would not buy garage/house made cables and that is my personal opinion. This is the cable section of the forum, correct? The only reason I got involved was because I have personally owned TEO.
Fiddler all I can say is “WOW”; “live and let live”. Sorry but I am no longer going to mention any makes or models of equipment I personally use, I would also like to apologize to Defride (the original post) and say I am sure this was not what you intended to happen from your original post.
Glory, I do agree with you that you can build a very good cable in the garage but what happens when your garage power cord starts a home fire? Is the second built cable exactly the same as the first cable and does it sound the same as the first cable you built? I have personally built some great sounding cables but they would not hold a candle to some of the top manufacturers. In my opinion there is another level of cabling that requires technology and that technology is what makes the difference from a very good cable too an emotional cable. Does the manufacturer and stores charge to much for this technology, “yes”.
From what I now understand the same store that I purchased my Zu speakers from is now selling HD cables. I did mention to the owner several times during our conversations that I like HD cables and perhaps that is how he found out about the brand. I have spoken to him several times and he seems like a great guy, very easy to deal with. I think if you read my emails I clearly state there are lots of great cables but my cable of choice is HD. I never realized that mentioning 1 brand name would cause so much crap. Beside me and my buddies I really don't know anyone that uses HD.I also like JPS, does that mean I own that company? You guys really need to move on because I don't care what cable you use as long as your system gives you some emotional connection to the artist. If you don’t want to hear my opinion than stop asking.
Read it much closer; I bought the HiDiamond cables from the manufacturer in Italy and I bought the TEO cables from the manufacturer in Canada. There are a ton of people that make a ton of statements on these forums but the minute someone doesn’t agree with someone else then there is a problem. You can believe what you want and I am cool with that but really, natural, organic, weight and body, it sounds like he bought a shampoo. In my opinion the best cables don’t add anything to an already great sounding system but they will increase the top end resolution and define the soundstage. Truthfully my opinion is just another opinion among the 1000 different opinions but we really do have a structured system to base our opinions on, so I do trust our scoring system especially when 6 out of 6 guys have the exact same opinion.
Could you explain what the design difference is and what liquid they actually use in their cables? I have tried TEO and spoken to the owner and never did receive an answer to these 2 questions. My understanding is they still use copper to transmit the signal?
I never actually had a bad experience with the owner; I had a bad experience with the cable. I bought 2 cables that were supposed to be the exact same model and they sounded totally different. They did add weight and body in all sorts of negative ways. I prefer a cable that doesn’t add anything but instead disappears so I can listen to the artist and recording.
The first time you hear a cable that adds nothing you will know because all your recording will sound more emotional.
I find the only thing toxic is that you are not allowed to have an absolute opinion on these forums. How do we not know if you are the owner of TEO cables? I bought my cables directly from the manufacturer in Italy and I prefer the HiiDiamond cables over many other brands but I have stated very clearly that there are also several other very good cables on the market. I would be an idiot to think that there was only 1 great cable available! When you have tested as many cables as I have over a 30 year period with a proper scoring system than I will listen to your opinion and even respect your opinion but seriously weight/body; did you buy them to equalize your system?
I not really sure who you are but I know where and who I bought the TEO cables from. I meet the owner Ken who was driving a M5 and Taras. They meet me at Taras farm house just outside of Kingston Ontario. They were very nice and they were running homemade blue speakers to match their homemade Teo cables. The cables were represented as the best model they sold but in my opinion they were not very good. Again this is just an opinion but I am pretty sure I am allowed to have an opinion.

I am done so quit making up stories. When we are testing cables we always try to go directly to manufacturer to save money.
Tbg, I agree with you my opinion is just another opinion. I am however surprised that you are allowed to mention a cable brand without being accused of either being; the owner, the distributer, the manufacturer, someone’s brother or perhaps the owner’s mother.

Just for the record Portals Cables look like an interesting design and that is the exact type of cable we like to test. Exemplar Audio certainly does have a complete line of products.
I really don’t have time to play your game but you should stop making up stories. I drove just outside of Kingston Ontario and purchased 2 sets of interconnects off the 2 owners of the TEO cables; it is really that simple. I did purchase my Zu speakers from the Zu distributer in Canada and his name is Bob.
If you make up stories you should be ready to back your lies. All this because I don’t like TEO cables the cable that you use, seriously?