thx for all
my room was slightly damped, and NOW...having a room at live side, have a diffuser at the first side reflection point, and rear wall is 1eft apart, and have some rugs.., behind my listening position (about 8 ft ) there is a mixture of junk up to the ceiling ..from the wall to abut 3ft
first..of all i do not want to spend that much for a pair of Watch DOG, and having an impression it is a bit to small for my room even i get a pair. my room roughly measured at about 6000cubic ft...
I notice some goner use DD15/18, JL113..and some REL..etc..for music..
Wilson Benesch Torus ....never thought about it , i shall take a look |
beside that..i never have any subwoofer in life |
my room are fully concreted construction, and in fact the Volume may be about or above 7000 ft3
i want a pair..since..i suspect the crossover point will be at around 50 to 60hz.., from that range, there may be some stereo image, and from many findings, it make some sense for having a pair but not just one ..from the volume prospective, a pair is already made some sense
david wilson use 2 hummers for his pair of X-2 too.. |
those opus...is...so expensive, this why i wonder.if i go for second tier Transparent..what may be a good altenative
thx |
yes ..i am at HK, and i also buy around the world..
i am using a pair of cello performance IIpower amp, and CD is a meridian 808.2
checked all polarity at the outlet.at this moment, i was reversed for the pre amp, and fixed , and heard the instandly improvement. i am using a Matisse Reference Tube Pre amp
may be tomorrow i should plug in a Pass LAB X20 for a test, and shall run a full XLR connection tomorrow
But..if the speaker is at 11 ft away from the rear wall, does this address some lost of bass respond from the room ?
interconnetions are not fancy at all, it is some Silver QED, some Lizted Cable from Viola ( those suppose to be pretty similar to Cello String)
the Maxx2 deliver punch..but low energy was low, it was indeed excellent when it was in my last room at 40% of the sizes
I cannot see the need for a Grand Slamm..if i can get better bass by a pair of subwoofer, as the mid and the high and the image..sound stage..and depth are all GOOD..but not the lower end
I had Avalon Eidolon in that room a few months ago, bass was less than the maxx2
floor is fully carpet, however it is not those thick and plush ..just those office grade carpet - that suppose to took away from lower mid
now the sides wall are almost untreated
happy to hear some suggestion for any cable which give better bass
forget to mention my speaker cable, i have a pair of Cardas Golden reference - which sound a bit too rich for my taste, and a pair of very old audioquest Clear III, and now i am using a double run of Gotham professional Speaker wire..which apart from image sizes..not not quite refined..everythig seem natural, i suppse the Maxx 2 should deserved a better pair of SC...
for the Power Cord to the performance II, it is some double shield 99.9999 % copper..etc..forget the spec ,
a lot to share..and as need more advice
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same case...it was driven by my FM acoustic 244A + 611 combo, speaker cable was FM forceline 5 ,and I/C was FM PIT |
i started from 2 ft from the rear wall, however the funny things are..the mid and high Charity really so much better at the range of 10.5ft to 11ft at my room, really so much more enrichment than 4 ft..6ft..5 ft..8 ft.., but just at that range
now the speaker is about 2.4 meter aparted,
i am looking into some DIY infromation for a bass trap, i did made some but not properly measured etc.. |
wonder...JL Labs F113 , which are 13 inches driver..would that be a bit too small ? ANy comment for the JL 212?
I am seeking a pair of watch dog I ( which is active, and cheaper)
>>> Stay away from Velodyne not up to the task, slow and does not have the mega output of the JL.s <<< ... thx for sharing
REL sub ..seem capable..
well understood, trying to blend othr brand subwoofer with th maxx2 is a hard task
although i do not to pay too much for for a pair of Grand Slamm SIII if i sell my Maxx2, however i suspect, thing will be more or less the same, and i demand a pair of subwoofer |
toe in until i sort of see n not seeing the inner side wall and adjusted the head angle based on the manual and fine tuned within 2 ladder steps |
Richard
can u elaborate a little bit more about "Thiel seamed closest"
the selection of that pair of Subwoofers are indeed risky,as it is fairly hard to resell without losing too much (aparted from buying the Watch DOG) , it can be costly mistake for me, this is why..i am opened to hear more sharing here
yes crossing at 60hz seem a little bit high,however it will be tested to find out
really not that easy |
richard, what is you core system now? mind to share a bit?
i had soem pass labs XA100,600, Krell 450MCX 750MCX..Mark no 32 ..etc some FM..etc.however i sold them all recently and keeping the Cello performance II (as it match reasonably well without too far wrong with most of the speakers around)
i had a lot of speakers, and however i like to settle down with the Maxx2 for at least 2 more yrs, until i can afford something at the USD40 to 50K range |
those MIT..is simple cost too much, the DMA 360 seem good match with Wilson, i heard soem of the set up, however it did not sound too refined, i think..it is all about the grade of MIT MY FRIEND is using
how's u comment about your digital front end
funny to see how;s different in the coming future from you.
never hard to let;s go any FPB..unless u are looking for a little bit too much, and are u going to feed the DMA from the DAC? |
why not to hear your price for the watch dog, as my Maxx2 was brought here too |
occasionally..i felt that weak pressure wave, i want more from those drum records..which i know..they have plenty low notes, and heard those waves from the same record from some set up
wondering how much improvement fromthe DD18 Plus or DD15 Plus Vs the pervious version ? |
now using the XP20 Pass labs with the performance II, Bass is better, but know..it can be more..power low end wave in my room and from those recording
any more suggestion for the Sub woofer? |
does the JL...change the wilson tonal balance little bit?
a pair if JL113..used is not expensive at all |
beside that..how u support the JL113...do u make a stand to make it a little bit higher ? |
i almost set my mind for the pair of JL 113 for a few resasons
1) it is a lot cheaper than the REL
2) almost everyone said it is better, faster more energy and more musical than the DD
3) fair good price for a used pair
hey...do u run the the ALEX full range with the pair of JL..without the need of a crossover..?
i just worry...it may make the Wilson too warm, i like wilson..since..it is not that warm..haha |
i think your room size is good for the maxx, and u can have your Maxx2 7 to 8 ft from the screen, or less if u wish, however your challenge may be the left to right distance for the Maxx, in order to have everyone in your HT..be able to view the 110" screen, which may make the maxx too close to the side walls, or too close to the front , i suggest u to make some measurement and drawing to confirm.. |
HI BLowers
wondering what speaker cable u are using and u was used with your Wilson? |
I m also looking into some analog eq, such as ibis eq, but at 11feets, it really seem better in most area, except bass.i also aware of, logically I should get 2x15 inch, but seem no 15 inches having a better user feedback than those jl113, .. |
i am quite old school..and still having a thinking..of keeping all ..(of coz except CD..etc) to be analog
not sure about those digital room EQ..or correction.., but seem easy to handle.. |
so make thing properly..Pre amp to EQ, then a SUB crossover , then a pair of subwoofer? |
i had Cello Palette SIV and MIV ..and sold them, as if i need a EQ again.. i like to try something different, i do sell a lot of cello at asia, and i always keep a pair of cello performance II..as it drive almost all speaker whatever i plug in without too much matching issue
at this moment, i am using a pass labs XP-20, Cello Performance II and Meridian 808.2
it is very fine to be a dealer and share here, i suppose most dealer enjoy this hobby too
thx for your advice |
wondering..what speaker cable u can recommend me..for the maxx2 ? |
