Proteus compared to MSL ultra eminent ex


Hi Everyone,

Hoping to find some folks who have experience with both of these cartridges. I already have a Proteus, which I love. I have another, different, excellent cartridge with which I'm having some problems, and I am looking for a low internal impedance (<5 ohm) reasonable output cartridge (> .2-.3 mV) to replace it. As low noise as possible. I am just wondering whether the ultra eminent EX from my sonic labs would sound very similar to the Proteus that I already have. If so, I would probably consider getting something with a slightly different sonic signature. Thanks in advance for your opinions.
arsh

Showing 4 responses by rauliruegas

Dear @arsh  :  "  Because I find slightly better imaging and soundstage with the lower height setup .  ""

After the LP the cartridge is the source of what you are listening in your system. The recording microphones normally are " seated " at near field where those imaging and soundstage alost does not exist. What you are listening is in reality an artefact created by your room/system.

If for you those listening characteristics are so critical the  you can follow looking for that "   I want a great cartridge " but then you avoiding a lot of higher impedance cartridges that performs even better than some of the low impedance ones like the Allaerts Formula 1 or the Colibri or the GFS  or the Anna diamond and many more to name it here.

Yes, I know that you want to stay with your lower heigth set up so be that way.

Btw, thank's for your answer that I never imagined the " trouble " down there.

R.


Dear @vusi_khumalo  : "  and it taught me a lot about setup. "

Yes, the Colibri ask for a little patience to been " there " but it's worth the effort because as you said it:

"  Just found it to be a great stepping stone cart at best, yes it does some things better that most carts I have heard. ""

When the Colibri return from vdH to its owner after those 300 hours of play  and vdHul already fine tunned its quality level performance is really great.

R.

Dear arsh : the low output model has lower internal impedance, I don't have on hand the value but you can ask vdHul.

In the other side why is so important that cartridge parameter for you, i it because your phono stage design? Can you explain it about? thank's in advance.

R.
Dear @arsh : I love Transfiguration that I started  with the Temper V and other models and I had the opportunity to listen the Proteus in very good system that I know very well and I had experiences in my system with MSL. Both very good performers.

But you are looking for a different " signature " then my take is for something that in some ways outperforms even the Proteus and this is the vdH Colibri ( I owned/own 3 samples. ) in specific the 0.22mv model and the non wood cartridge body.

The Colibri makes good match with your tonearm and has excellent tracking abilities very hard to beats. You can't go wrong with.

I hope you don't own/have any tube in your system because you are looking for a first rate cartridge that can honor MUSIC.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.