Opinions on best integrated under 10k?


Father Christmas has been early and left me a very sizable bonus check!
So time to spend it before the other half can....

Looking at building another system but thinking of just a very high power integrated amp.
Wish list...
200w or more.
Balanced inputs
Digital inputs
Phono inputs

A quick look shows items like McIntosh ma7900 and Mark levinson ml585 which both seem to fulfill all or the majority of my wants.
Sure there are others.
So thoughts and any current or previous owners of suitable candidates please chime in
Thank you in advance
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@uberwaltz  

I can see why you would like a built-in DAC module and having one makes perfect sense.

AND ESPECIALLY since this is for a secondary system.

I would go ahead with the ML 585...it checks off on all of your needs. At some point, I think it is useful (and wise) to let go of the uber critical  pursuit of our choices and just enjoy what we have. 

Happy Holidays.
@uberwaltz  McIntosh comes to mind. I don't believe there are that many choices that blend the feature set you are looking for, within a fully / complete tubed amplification setting. 
@uberwaltz Can you relax your requirement for XLR connections? If you do find a product with these connectors (wrt. what you are looking for) they are likely not going to be true balanced anyways.

That’s the first requirement I’d eliminate.

An integrated DAC (or DAC module) is also a bottleneck and will really limit your choices. I’m glad @audiotroy brought up Synthesis. I was thinking that the Italian marque(s) would be your best bet, given your goals.

All the best with your search.
Here is a list of super integrateds from Darko, not a single tubed version in this particular mix:

https://darko.audio/2018/07/15-must-hear-super-integrated-amplifiers/

(solitary exception of tubed linestage in the VR Lio)

There are a number of things I have learned on this journey of integrateds....if you truly do get a full all in one well then you are stuck with that house sound for every aspect, dac, phono, headphone etc.

To your point @uberwaltz .... which is why a 'classic' integrated (pre and amp) makes more sense to me vs. a 'super' integrated (all in one).
@yyzsantabarbara   Are the Vitus SIA-025 or SIA-30??? not under consideration?
I am done for now. Time to just sit back and enjoy the music. ... the synergy just gelled.

@uberwaltz  Congratulations. Wonderful to hear!
The Gryphon Diablo 120 doesn’t get nearly as much play as the 300.

Here is a review (including the DAC module). Author: Uday Reddy // SoundStage!HI-FI

https://www.soundstagehifi.com/index.php/equipment-reviews/1175-gryphon-audio-designs-diablo-120-int...
@uberwaltz  They are out there, but as RIAA mentioned earlier you will need to move quickly. If you go with a Euro spec unit (many more available, and lower prices) make sure Gryphon is willing to convert to US spec (I don't think you want to go the step-up transformer route).

I've also seen the Vitus SIA-025 (Mk2) close to the top of your budget range.

As you know, I have the T+A PA 3100 HV and am extremely happy with it. Their 3000 units can be had for close to the upper range of your budget, also.

These top tier integrateds are worth every dollar (and more) that you'll be investing in them, should you go forward with one. I encourage you to be patient and move accordingly. All the best.
Kevin, thought you were still in the hunt. : )

Good to know you are sticking with the Ayre.