One big reason why brick and mortar high end audio dealers struggle.


I live in a major metropolitan area with several close by high end stores.  I never go in any of them.  A dealer just opened a new location 5 minutes from my house.  Major dealer with Magico, Constellation, McIntosh and many other serious brands.  I went by a couple weeks ago mid day on a Friday.  Door locked, nobody there.  I call today to make sure they are actually open for business.  Guy answers the phone and says that they were out on an install when I can by and that they are short staffed.  No problem, I understand.  But from that point on the guy takes a subtle but clearly defensive and pissy tone.  He states that they recommend setting up an appointment for customers to view their products.  Sure, and I recommend never going there.  Off my list.  Back to buying online.  Here's the issue.  So many of these high end dealers are only after the wealthy guy that comes in, spends less than an hour there and orders a complete home theater or 2 channel system and writes a check for $50k or more on the spot.  That's there customer base.  I get that it can be annoying to allow a bunch of lookers to come in and waste their time and not buy anything, but isn't it good for business to have more customer traffic?  If someone comes in, spends an hour there, listens to some amazing gear and then buys nothing, doesn't he tell his friends and family and coworkers about his great experience?  Isn't this word of mouth valuable?  These brick and mortar dealers almost universally are unwelcoming and unfriendly to people that want to come in and just look and listen and not buy.  Sorry, but the vast majority of potential customers are not going to spend 20 minutes by private appointment to order their new $100k system.  Why not encourage people to come and spend time with zero pressure to purchase.  I have purchased dozens of high end speakers and electronics over the many years I have enjoyed this hobby.  I might well buy from a dealer if they were actually nice, friendly, and encouraged hanging out and getting to know their gear.  But they don't.  I would never go to a high end store that required an appointment.  Because this creates a huge pressure situation for you to purchase that day.  I'm not ready to purchase on my first visit.  And neither are thousands of other potential customers.  If they can make a good living just catering to the wealthy one time buyers, then, ok, good for them.  Doesn't seem like they can though since so many have gone under.  Maybe it's time to try a different approach?  Step one, no commission sales people.  Step two, welcome people to listen and not buy anything.  Encourage it.  This will create positive word of mouth and significantly increase customer traffic and ultimately create more paying customers it would seem.  I don't get it.  Rant over. Please don't respond that you have an amazing dealer.  I'm sure they exist but they are the exception.  What I am describing is the typical customer experience.
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They talk about the changing values of their customers, saying that younger people these days (under 40) simply aren’t as interested in two-channel systems as they used to be. As far as the mid- to hi-end market, I wonder if that’s really the problem that dealers are facing.

After reading dozens of comments on this thread, the phrase "late 70s/early 80s" keeps popping up. It would be safe for me to assume that the average age of most on this forum is skewed into Baby Boomer territory. I believe this is the TRUE issue, not "tire kickers" or "time suckers" or any other pejorative term for prospective customers. With that said, there is a generational disconnect with the preferences of those in the "under 40" crowd. As I'm on the cusp of that demographic, I know for certain that a solid majority of those in that age group don't have a clue what high end audio is about nor do they express interest in it (even after having listened to it). Most of them prefer PORTABLE electronics; this is where I see the future of high end audio. Several dealers in my area are catering to this market with Audeze, Focal, Hifiman, etc., as most of those so inclined in audio do not have the space for big speakers and racks of gear and are underwater in so much student debt to where it's not affordable. Portable/headphone audio can be had with an outlay of several thousand for the high end brands. This should become more a focus for most dealers if they want to stay alive. The older audiophiles cannot be around forever and things change. 

Also, it would make more business sense to reserve one or two days a week for "appointment only" or on-site customer calls and the rest of the week for standard operating hours. A LOT of younger people have no idea these places exist because they're not accessible (and we're talking about younger people with money to spend). Boost the visibility and lose the "snob" factor because multi-millionaire clients are not guaranteed.

I'm a firm believer in going to a shop to demo the product you're interested in buying - you MUST hear what it sounds like - especially with headphones. I understand the direct sales model but how many times am I going to buy heavy speakers and send them back because the sound doesn't match the review hype? I've been burned before with that and I want to audition the gear in 3-D, not read about it or watch a video. I've been in the audio hobby for over 30 years and you still need to LISTEN to this gear before parting with $100 or $100,000.

 

I still say a majority of the decline can be attributed to generational proclivities. There's virtually little to no input from any of the thirty-somethings in this thread. 

Blaming "tire kickers" (the first I've heard this term applied to audio shoppers was in reading this thread) wholeheartedly for this is unfair, just the same as blaming snobby salesmen. 

I can see the issue from both perspectives but I have to offer an analogy of car shopping for further clarification:

The shopper knows full well what they can reasonably afford. Over 90% of the average demographic will purposely avoid entering a Bentley/Rolls Royce or Lamborghini dealership because there's nothing there affordable (this is the equivalent of visiting an audio shop you know has stratospheric systems in there that you know you cannot afford). You will, however, have persons that are either serious ("I want an S Class Mercedes S65 AMG Black Series with custom Designo leather interior, upgraded wheels and Burmester sound system") and those that are browsing (or "tire-kicking" as some pejoratively refer to them). The browsers, in my opinion, are comparison-shopping, as they have more than likely visited other dealerships and are looking for the best value for their money. 

If you're wanting to purchase an upscale luxury vehicle, will you only visit the BMW dealer if you don't know precisely what you want? Wouldn't you read internet reviews, watch review videos of the interested vehicles? Wouldn't you also visit Mercedes, Lexus, Audi? Someone will get your sale. You may have really liked the features and performance of the Lexus but the salesperson treated you as a "waste of time" so you decided to buy the BMW instead because, not only was the vehicle comparable but the service was more accommodating. The salesperson realized the customer was making an important decision and spending a large amount of money and didn't want to make any mistakes. True, this does not bode well for commissioned sales staff, but it's the nature of the business. You never know if that person will actually return and purchase from you because of your patience. Not everyone is a walking sack of money (even if they're in a BMW or Lexus dealership). The internet direct-order equivalent for something like this would be Carvana or similar.

Apply this to high end audio and you'll get a clear picture. The disadvantage of high end audio is the lack of financing options industrywide. This one aspect alone would expand the customer base (especially for millennials already wrestling with student loan debt). Until then, every high end salesman is Captain Ahab.

 

In other words don't go looking at a Focal Grande Utopia/Naim system with Martin Logan/Benchmark money. As much as I would want to hear a pair of Focal Grande Utopias, I couldn't just go down there and expect them to turn them on for me (if I don't know the owner). For sellers, don't write off a customer as a waste of time because they're just listening to a system. They probably traveled from out of state to listen to it, and if it is not an "appointments only" type of establishment, it makes sense to accommodate this because this person may return after they've done their comparison-shopping. Service is expected to be paramount in brick-and-mortar establishments. Not every customer that walks through the door of an establishment will buy something. Maybe that's my millennial logic.