Micro Seiki, or TW AC-1


I'm trying to decide between Micro Seiki RX 5000 and TW AC-1.
They are approx. the same price used (about $10K)
Both are belt drive.
Unfortunately, I don't have a first hand experience with either of the tables.
You can see my current set-up in my system page.
The reason, I want to make a change from DD TT to belt drive is just to try a different approach.
Also, I have a feeling, that the bass would be one of the areas, where MS and TW might have an edge over my current DD Technics SP-10 MkII
My endeavor into analog is fairly new, so I'm not sure what my final choice in analog would be, unless I try it in my own system.
What I'm really interested in is the following:
Sonic differences b/w MS, TW and Technics SP-10 MkII
Reliability
Service availability.
maril555

Showing 4 responses by downunder

I own the TW AC-3 as well as Exclusive P3 & P10.

There is no doubt in my mind the dd P3 has a better controlled, tighter and more coherent bass compared to the AC-3. This opens up the mids for better transparency. The AC-3 has a really nice top end with better air than the did P3.

The TW needs an effective support IMO, whereas the P3 has a sophisticated one built in. I am sure if I replaced my SRA platform (which I have been too impressed with) with something better the AC-3 might have better bass speed and control.if I got my P3 arm re-wired, the upper frequencies would probably be more extended.
I used to use the TW with the mystic mat, but now with the bare brass aka MS platter.

Which one is better - neither, they are both great tables and frankly having multiple tables is the best compromise of all. There is some music that sounds better on the TW and some the P3.

Jasper is 100% correct. The rest of the system will have a larger stake of what will sound better than perhaps what the tables will bring. This is one reason why Raul does not like the MS imo. His system is all ss, so MS is too revealing.
My all tube system may also be the one of the reasons why I feel the TW bass is a bit slow.

There are no bad products at this level, only good or bad matching with the rest of one's system.
The TW ac-3 does not have speed stability issues. It has been rock solid for the years I have owed it. My old VPI HRX had speed issues. Each time you measured it with the kab strobe it would be a different speed.
The TW is always the same. However, as mentioned by a couple of others the steps in adjustment are too large that you can never get it spot on. You can get it between 0.03 0.1% thou.
I just which had the bass speed, control and nimbleness of my Exclusive P3
Sorry Jaspert. You allready have a RX-5000 :-)

Raul I will buy the MS RX-5000 off you and I can compare to my TW AC-3.

let me know

cheers