Magnepan 3.7 - 3.7i owners need help please


Hello, I have owned a pair of Magnepan 3.6r's for quite some time. I was assured that the 3.7i's were a big step in sonic improvement over the 3.6r's. So, I went and bought a brand new pair of 3.7i's. Got them home, set them up, and have approximately 20 hours of play on them.

I am using the exact same equipment as I had with the 3.6r's which is a Sanders Magtech amp, a Benchmark 3 hgc dac, and the exact same decent quality cabling. The 3.6r's had a partial external crossover and I was bi-wiring. The 3.7i's do not have anything but a single pair of binding posts, so I am using the exact same speaker cable but not a bi-wire version.

What I have noticed it that they definitely do not have the depth, spatial characteristics, or openess of the 3.6r's. They do however have maybe a more predominant midrange but, at the sacrifice of the midrange being bloated or muddled at moderate volume levels. I have noticed that the 3.7i's have sort of a filter membrane behind the midrange section which my 3.6r's did not. Maybe a smaller rear dipole radiation pattern? The bass is also lacking compared to the bass response of the 3.6r's

The Dealer said they may need more break in to loosen the mylar. However if that were the case, the midrange would get worse, but thembass may get better. The passive crossovers may need some more break in time, but to be honest, i'm skeptical about all of it!

So, anyone out there that can offer some insight would be greatly appreciated. I am just a working class hero with limited financial resources. I cant afford to spend a large sum of money for something no returnable, and go backwards with disappointment. Needless to say I did not get much sleep last night. Might need a prescription for xanax at this point!
 Thanks, Steve.. 
sfrounds

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helomech, thank you for your response. Yes, placement is exact. I may have to wait the few hundred hours and see what happens. Possibly because they are different, they will require some change in position? Calling Wendell could not hurt.

Hasse,Thank you for your response as well, So glad to hear from someone who has had both, Did time/break in change the sound of your 3.7's? Mine sound, I guess, somewhat compressed compared to my 3.6's. I will call Wendell, and see what he says. That tape bothers me, but need to find out more about it. Thanks again
Hello everyone... Wow, thank you for all of this information, where do I begin. I have about 50 hrs on them now and there is more bottom end. However, they still sound compressed too me, and not very open sounding. Sort of like I wish I could take the grills off...ha ha

I am convinced you guys are absolutely correct about break-in time, and believe they may actually need the hundreds of hours. I wish Magnepan was doing that before they shipped them.

Okay, I'll explain what I see regarding the tape thing. On the 3.7i's when looking at the midrange section from the rear, I see a white type filter media and appears as though it would reduce the sound levels coming out of the rear of the midrange section. My 3.6's do not have this, its the same as looking at the bass section. 

I was told by the dealer, Overture, in Wilmington, Delaware that Wendell was out and would not be back until the 20th or so.

Yes, I still have the 3.6's standing by for a near future reference to the 3.7.  I know exactly how the 3.6's sound, and at this point, I don't want to lose a nights sleep by putting them back in service just yet. One of them will be going, just not sure which one yet.

I tried experimenting with the resistors and within a half hour I took them the heck out. Oh my...terrible

I have been experimenting with positioning, but I must admit that "no" I have not tried hanging them from the ceiling yet. They are in a different position than the 3.6's were but not all that much. I kind of know this room and its usually within 18 to 24 inches from the side walls and 4 to 6 feet off the back wall.

The mention about the 3.6R's having the capability of bi-wiring, or bi-amping is a wonderful advantage, and I miss that with these new ones. I was bi-wirng with the 3.6's and it really did make an nice improvement. I was also bi-amping for a while with a Minidsp, and the clarity was so improved its nutty. But, at the cost of the sound stage and depth somewhat collapsing. I believe that the multiples (3) of analog to digital conversions that was happening using the Minidsp was the cause. I went back to a single amp bi-wired and found my comfort zone there.

I really miss VMPS, and wish there were some out there in decent shape to be had. Why is it when the few times that we finally get it all just right that we just can't leave it alone? My wife says i'm nuts and "What Now" funny!!!

Well, thank you all for your time and help. Please don't stop! I will post here as things progress with break in.




Hello everyone...

Here's a rather alarming update on my issue. I knew something was just not right with these speakers.

Turns out that one of my brand new speakers left the factory with either mis-wired crossovers or something amiss inside the crossover section.

On one speaker the bass section plays from 30hz to 9khz, the midrange plays from 30hz to 5khz, and the tweeter plays from 700hz to 13khz. Well, I think that's rather a substantial problem!

Talked to the dealer and looks like they are going back to Magnepan.

How does this get missed, are they not thoroughly tested before being shipped. Are there more are out there like mine.

it be checked easy enough. Thanks 
Just an update for anyone with interest. The dealer working with Magnepan decided they are sending me a brand new pair of speakers, and taking the others back.