Lifters ForGetting Cables Off The Floor, Worth It Or Snake Oil


  •  I'm looking at some porcelain cable lifters to get some power and speaker cable up off the floor.  Does raising the cables off the floor really make a difference? It's going to be about 200 bucks for 10 of them. Thanks.  
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That said, I haven't tried elevating my cables yet. I'm interested to learn what you hear, if anything.
I'm willing to try something if I can do it cheaply. $200 for cable elevators is a lot. Google ceramic insulators and you'll find loads of different sizes and shapes. Vintage ones look cool but are more expensive, but newer white ceramic insulators for electric fences are only a few dollars each. Here's an example:
https://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/zareba-corner_post_ceramic_insulator_-_10_pk./0000000220275?utm_sou...
I noticed that statement too. I believe the mechanism involved in coiled speaker cables is induction, with the coil acting as an inductor, which, in series, acts as a low pass filter, reducing high frequencies, exactly as you noted.
@2channel8 - exactly. I think there are many products that could very well do what they claim, but seemingly exorbitant prices make many people sceptical and many outright hostile. 

My solution is to DIY and, if I notice an improvement, then I MAY consider a commercially available product.

@randy-11 - why? Why do you spend so much time knocking products and making absolute claims about things that you don't seem to actually understand? Insulation on cable increases capacitance, which stores and releases a charge. It's not a stretch theoretically that this stored and released charge in a signal cable could mess with the time alignment of the signal, thereby 'smearing' it. And it's equally plausible that anything the wire insulation is in contact with could further affect the capacitance of the cable.

While these effects would be incredibly small, there's no reason to assume that no one could hear them. Also, if indeed there was no scientific basis for something, that doesn't immediately imply that it is impossible. Data suggesting something doesn't work, however, would be a valid reason to suggest something doesn't work.

Right now though, you come across as an anti tweak fundamentalist. I'm curious if you've tried cable elevators or if this is just another thing that you've decided can't possibly work and must save us from.

I wonder, is it tweaks you have issues​ with, or it is it the high prices that disgust you, tainting the product in your mind?
@tubegroover right on. There is no doubt that tweaks like this come in after room treatment, speaker placement, isolation/coupling.. in fact, I'd wager that, if you haven't sorted those issues, you'll probably not even be able to notice differences created by tweaks.
Pro audio and home audio are two different beasts. Very different environments, with very different noise and volume levels.

Plenty of mastering studios take vibration control measures.. and that environment is very much akin to the home audio environment
Funny thing is, I used a crown class d pro amp to good effect until a few months ago. Guess what? That system sounded better with vibration control on the rack, turntable, preamp and speakers. Pro audio gear can show improvements in performance when vibration control (and cabling) is well applied.
Pro audio in a performance venue setting shows these improvements less clearly or not at all often because of the high volume often used as well as the large spaces of many venues. Hopefully a noisy crowd too!