Take this as you wish, we are a Kef dealer with the Blades on display so we ar going to be biased.
Over the years have heard the Dynaudio C4 and other similar models they sound good, but not amazing, they are smooth , good imagers, and they have respectable bass. The downside vs the Kef Blades is they don’t have the speed and articulation of the Blades, nor do they have the remarkable combination of image size and speficity of the Blades.
So if you like the Kef Rerference series you will be blown away by the Blades which sound even cleaner and more focused then the Ref series, the Blades are the only speaker that Kef makes which employ a lithium stiffening ring bonded to the Uni-Q which is one of the details that elevate the Blades over the Reference.
Dave and Troy
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To Wcfeil, most dealers have the products they have because they make choices based on evaluations and their preferences those evaluations include looking at all the relevant models in a particular price point and considering we sell some of the best loudpseaker lines: including Kef, Dali, PSB, Elac, Quad, ATC, Cabasse, Paradigm, Legacy our choices speak for themselves.
The Dynaudio C4 are an old design, which we feel do not stand out in anyway. One of our clients has the $85k top of the line Dynaudio's they are nice speakers but they don't blow us away for that price point.
As per Blades vs the Ref 5 yes the Ref 5 will work in more rooms based on the tube tunning, if you have the space the Blade 2 are pretty awesome slightly smaller version of the Big Blades, we have the Blades in a 26 by 20 room and they sound fantastic for this room size.
Dave and Troy
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Maritime that is 1 reason you purchase from a dealer.
If you had purchased from us we would have eaten that shipping cost for both directions unless when Kef received the speakers they found nothing wrong.
The only issue ever had with a pair of kefs was a blown set of tweeters one time and a set of uni-q that were overdriven with a 1,000 watts of power.
That is it. Kef builds fantastic speakers what is causing your distortion is a mystery at this point.
Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ |
Mountainsong you should come in if you are on the East Coast we have Ref 3, Ref 5, and the Blades on display.
Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ |
Buying direct offers far less advantages then by purchasing directly from a dealer. Even if Kef uses a local dealer, do you think the local dealer would be compensated the same way?
Your local dealer can do things that buying direct can not, they can make sure you are happy and if you are not happy with the product they may be able to take it back and swap out for another line, in terms of pricing, a local dealer may be able to do better, Kef Direct offers only full MSRP.
Support your dealers they will thank you for it.
Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ |
Emaillists, most of the shows that the Blades have been shown at have been setup by KEF and so the partnering gear is usually good but not top of the line electronics, cabling and source components.
Peter Bruninnger of AVS Showrooms, complemented our setup of the Blades saying that in all the times he heard the Blades he never loved them until he heard our setup.
We are not saying that we are necessarily better then any other dealer, only that we put together a well matched setup that did honor to the Blades.
One of the things that we tend to do differently is to try different brands of electronics, cabling and sources until we come up with a synergistic match. Too many dealers will not necessairly go shopping for a new brand of product or products if what they have doesn't really work.
Most people will expect to drive a $25-32k set of speakers with proper matching electronics which in our mind would be $20k+ range of electronics, not including a proper source $7-20k range and matching cabling and power conditioning.
If you look at some of the show setups they have been $5k integrated amps, a laptop vs a dedicated server, and relatively inexpensive cabling.
If you drive the Kef's correctly the top end is detailed with no harshness, you get thunderous deep bass, incredible dynamics and a very wide and well focused soundstage.
The Dynaudio's are very musical speakers their approach to driver design is more old school, Kef is always pushing the boundary of design and technology like very few small companies can do.
If you read the white papers on the Blade and Reference series their are so many advanced technologies seen in these loudspeakers that have been implimented in order to lower distortion and uncover details not seen in other designs.
Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ
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Mgrif104, Thank you! We post for a lot of reasons, one is to help grow our business, the other is to offer what we hope is construed as good advice and the third is to call attention to really outstanding products that we have discovered and put out, and fourth to possibly offer some rational commentary about other products that may be or should be considered when product X is being discussed.
When you have been doing this professionally for 30 years you generally learn a lot and the magazines, don't necessairly tell the whole picture.
We are always experimenting with new products in the recent 2 years we added: ATC, Quad, Innous Servers, Mytek, Naim's new Uniti Atom, Star and Nova, now adding a Naim NAP 300 power amp, Legacy, Rethem, Elac, new Paradigm Dominance Subwoofer, Anthem STR, Anthem separates, Micromega M100, Light Harmonic Davinci, Aqua Hifi Formula, Rega P3 and I am sure we are missing something.
New products we are bringing in Lumin X1, Naim NDX2, new Audioquest Power Cabling, and a few other new toys.
If you look at one of the posts we started which was removed, the moderators have a lot of issues, was to draw attention to the Micromega M100.
We heard a lot of great things about the Micromega and was intrigued to find a product that had a similar qualities to the Devialet which was a little too sterile. We liked the fact that the Micromega was $3,000 cheaper, had a room correction option, and used a Class A/B amplifier.
Once we got the Micromega it was wonderful so we started a post and boom it started getting traction and finally a few people decided to take the plunge and purchase the M100, unfortunatly not from us, and the posters loved the product.
We have one of the largest collections of gear in the tristate area and are always playing with new combinations to find what we hope will be the best products for our clients.
Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ
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Well lets get back to the C4 vs Blades.
C4 is a warmer overall tonal balace
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Blades super clean, more focused soundstage a bit more clinical
Dave and Troy
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Wcfeil, we really don't care that tatyana69 bought a pair of B&W 800d3 good for him if he liked them it is his money.
However, the discussion as mentioned by us as well as posters such a Ricrid1 is that you should form a composite of opinions by hearing a product under the same of similar conditions or at least comparable demoing types of rigs.
Do you think that a pair of KEF Blades or B&W 800D3 or Focal Sopra 3 or any super high end $20-35k set of loudspeaker is going to sound its best being driven by a:
$3,000.00 integrated amp and $300 speaker cables?
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a $10-20k amplifier and $3k worth of cabling?
Do you honestly think that all stores are going to demo with the same levels of equipment? It really comes down to the store, it also comes down to the products the store sells and their ability to put together a synergistic match of cabling, electronics and source components as well as the room that is being demoed in.
We demo our Kef Blades or Persona or Legacy on suitable gear, cabling and source components which means a $20-100k worth of products depending on the exact combination of which products we are going to demo, to think you can slap any old combo of anything on a true reference grade loudspeaker is madness, it is like buying a Porsch 911 Turbo, putting in 85 octane gas, and replacing its stock tires with some cheap glass ply tires and expecting the car to perform as intended.
Our Reference Rig:
T+A PA 3000 HV power amplifier $19kT+A P 3000 HV preamplifier $16kDigital from $8k Aqua Hifi Lascala to $35k Light Harmonic Davinci Dual Dac
Power conditioning Audio Magic Oracle $9k for sources and digital Audio Magic Oracle Amp $3kThat is not including cabling, room tuning etc.
We have played the Blades on much less expensive gear and yes they sound good but not the magical sound we get.
One telling observation of a well setup system was our setup at the New York Audio Show 2012 was $50k worth of Chord, $22k Dac lots of expensive cabling total system was about $150k with the Blades
down the hall
YG Acoustics Sonya $107K, Solution Monos $80k Solution Pre $40k cabling etc system price close to $400k
That system wasn't one bit better then our rig, verdict if you feed Reference grade loudspeakers properly the results can be spectacular.
We would say a properly set up pair of these reference loudspeakers from KEF, B&W or Paradigm, can easily do battle with a $100k plus pair of loudspeakers.
So yes setup is everything.
Dave and TroyAudio Doctor NJ
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From our experience the Blade 2 will work in a smaller room, then you think. We just put out the KEF Ref 5 which are nearly exactly the same in terms of specs vs the Blades, our smaller demo room is 18 by 14 and the Ref 5 sound fantastic in that room.
Our Blades are shown in our reference demo room which is 26 by 20 and the Blades do a fantastic job in that room.
The best thing is obviously to hear them in your room or at least in a similar sized room.
Dave and TroyAudio Doctor NJ
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Steve59, we have to agree to disagree, over the years we have seen large expensive speakers shoe horned into less then ideal rooms with sometimes surprisingly fantastic results.
The key is how the system is tuned and how the system is adjusted.
Systems which do have external subwoofers that are part of the system, speakers such as the Scaena Iso Arrays, which have adjustable gain for the woofers worked great in two of our clients rooms that weren’t large at all.
We demoed the Paradigm Persona 9H a speaker capable of 22hz bass response in a rather ordinary sized hotel room again with fantastic results and the same thing with the Legacy Aeris.
With today’s higher end dsp based room corrections systems you can solve the biggest issue in hifi which is bass which can over load the room and become boomy and ill-defined.
Even rooms and systems without Dsp you can use bass traps and custom hemholtz resonators to tune out the worst offending frequencies.
Our general philosophy is big room big speaker, small room small speaker, but as illustrated careful system matching and tuning can many times overcome the perceived issues.
With the desire to have X product and its intrinsic sound qualities and strengths and weakness in your room and commitment to getting it right you can accomplish things that shouldn’t sound right sounding pretty awesome.
Dave and TroyAudio Doctor NJ
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Dear Mr. Feil, Aren’t you the same Bill Feil former proprietor of Audio Feil International? Sound like sour grapes, Mr. Feil as our business is doing well and yours is what terminated? As per others on any Vandy post Mr. Rutan is sure to make his appearance and why shouldn’t he, he is quite knowledgeable about Vandersteens and most people will value his contributions as a dealer who has sold quite a number of that brand of speaker. We on the other hand are one of the very few complete displaying Kef dealers in the country with the Ref 1, 3, 5, Blades, R Series, Q series, LS 50, LS 50 wireless and T series products on active display so you could kind of say we know KEF’s products pretty well. Over the years we have sold Usher, Vivid, Esoteric, Sceana, Polymer, Amphion, Gallo, Mark and Daniel, Elac of Germany, System Audio, Acoustic Zen and a few others before our current line up. As per experience 30 years, countless shows and the widest assortment of audio gear in the New York market, might make you think we kind of know our stuff. All of the above gives us a lot of experience, how many dealers do you know that sell and display most of today’s best digital products or sell many of the brands that people want to check out including the Paradigm Personas, the Legacy line, and the Kef Reference to name a few of our standouts as well as ATC, Quad, Cabasse, Rethem, Elac and a few others. Rost: As per the C4 sounding like ribbon or planer, sorry don’t hear it, sold the Sonus Fabers, including the Extrema, never felt like they had that kind of detail of air, even Dynaudio has recognized the current line C4 is not doing as well compared to their newer product offerings. Based on your comments you fall into the musicality/smooth camp which isn’t a bad thing, the higher resolution designs need to be carefully matched with the right electronics, cabling and source to create the right balance between resolution and musicality. Unfortunately many dealers and at shows these speakers are not setup optimally. Again refer to Peter Brunninger’s AVS Showrooms, mention of not liking the Blades many times he heard them, he did mention the time he was blown away by them was when he heard them setup at the 2012 New York Audio show in our room,. The Muons don’t look anything like the C4. the Muon’s are shaped with an organic tapered hour glass shape from a one piece all aluminum casting, while the C4 look like a box attached to a frame with normal angular box facets Rost we are delighted that you love your Dynaudio speakers, we totally respect the line and do like their products, we just feel that some of the brands we are stocking are more remarkable in some ways than what Dynaudio is offering for the same of for less money than comparable products: The Legacy Focus Signature is extremely musical, has good detail with state of the art Heil AMT tweeters and midrange drivers, and throws a huge sound stage with bass down to 22hz and 92db efficiency in a hand made beautifully finished all wood cabinet, for $7k a pair can you honesty tell me one speaker that offers all of that other than the Tekton’s which are very ugly and boxy and have a much less detailed top end. Or the Pardigm Personas with state of the art pure Beryillium midrange and tweeters and remarkable imaging and clarity with 24 hz in room bass response for $10k a pair. Everyone has their own tastes and ideas of what makes good sound, looks good and fits their needs. Dave and Troy Audio Doctor NJ Lastly Mr. Feil if you had what we have on display you would be pretty proud to please refer to our video to get a taste of our shop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NPIn3pEmI4https://www.facebook.com/audiodoctor1/photos/a.462046180535267/462046300535255/?type=3&theaterhttps://www.facebook.com/audiodoctor1/photos/a.122499441156611/1774497322623473/?type=3&theaterhttps://www.facebook.com/audiodoctor1/photos/a.122499441156611/1774617332611472/?type=3&theaterhttps://www.facebook.com/audiodoctor1/photos/a.122499441156611/1774441295962409/?type=3&theaterhttps://www.facebook.com/audiodoctor1/photos/a.122499441156611/1884267561646448/?type=3&theaterhttps://www.facebook.com/audiodoctor1/photos/a.813391035400778/1774439705962568/?type=1&theaterIn comparison can you please post any pictures of your shop so people here can see how well you know about products. Dave and TroyAudio Doctor NJ |
Dear Mr Feil the idea about the forums is to discuss products and not dis other dealers.
As per your homes that could be utter bull. Gee i also have homes in Malibu, a Mansion in NYC, and a yacht in France.
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Ricredi and Moutainsong the problem here is the modderators comments and behavior from Mr Feil should be removed it is that simple.
Dave and Troy
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Ricred1 the issue is with people who attack other people and cast asspertions on their credibility or character, instead of commenting on the subject which is loudspeakers, and for that the moderators should have stepped in.
Mr Feils number of homes isnt relevant to the disscussion what we sell is as it demonstrates experience with these very same products.
Dave and Troy
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Mountainsong there is no rivalery between our company and Mr Feil.
Mr Feil is not in the industry any more and is clearly retired. His outragous behavior should be censored.
We are experts on Kef because we stock nearly everything they make.
Mr Feil had an invisible little store in upstate New York. When asked to show proof on anypoint he turns to insults and brags about having three homes.
We do love our brands and can answer and assist anyone.
You have our sincere apologies that there are people who are petty on this forum.
We wish you only the best,
Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ |
Mindless, just because two systems were setup with expensive equipment, doesn’t mean that there was synergy. When we were starting with the Blades we had Parasound JC 1 Monoblocks, Electrocompaniet AW 400 Monoblocks, Hegel stereo amp, Chord Monoblocks non reference and then reference monos from Chord, we also experimented with a very well known Ncore amp. None these combos sounded truly amazing until we went with a pair of the big Chord amps, which were $30k, although the smaller stereo Chord an $8k amp and the smaller Chord $15k monos did sound superb, the size of the image, the nearly limitless sense of power and punch and of course really deep tuneful bass didn't really manifest itself until the big mono blocks showed up and if you noticed the Parasound and Electrcompaniet amplifiers were both 400 watts into 8Ohms and 800 watts or so into a 4 ohm load, so it wasn't a case of power the more expensive amplifier just sounded far superior. With that being said the resulting $150k total system sounded as good as a $400k one which makes the Blades a bargain when compared to a $110k pair of YG or Wilson speakers. Today we would pair the Blades up with a T+A HV 3000 an $18k integrated which sounds about 70% as good as a $50k stack of electronics or the T+A 2500R an $11k integrated which also sounds amazing. One of the most remarkable compact monitors we have ever heard is the Legacy Calibre which basically has a built in sub woofer, and hits very hard in the bass, $5,500.00 a pair plus stands. The Calibre has a very wide sound stage, and has a lovely combination of a very smooth German sourced Heil AMT tweeter with a custom made exotic Italian mid range driver. In addition you can add a Wavelet a $5k dac,preamp, room correction processor and electronic crossover and then you would just need a good amp for the top end. One of our clients just ordered a pair of the Calibres https://legacyaudio.com/products/view/calibre/His pair was ordered with a set of built in amps which makes the speakers $6,800.00, then at any time you could progress to add a Wavelet and any amplifier you want for the top end for a very cool bi-ampable system which would then have a very good dac and room correction.Legacy was showcasing this system at the New York Audio show and it was absolutely extraordinary how close the sound was to a much more expensive system. The ATC SCM 40 is a fantastic compact floor stander which also has great punch and dynamics, $7,000.00 a pair. The ATC have a very natural sound in the mid range frequencies and is clean without being bright in the top end, they also image very well. The new Dynaudio Contour series is supposed to be fabulous we have not hear them but the two speakers above would be our recommendations if you are looking for warmth, bass depth, sound staging, dynamics in an under $10k price point. Dave and TroyAudio Doctor NJ |
Matthew it was great having you in my shop, and it was another client that blew up a set of Uni Q drivers on a set of Ref 5 that are now our display pair and appreciate you comments,"
And in real life, that fella is a prince. I enjoy his posts and appreciate his advice.
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It is nice to now that some people here who actually work with me and visit my store gets to understand that we really do know our stuff.
The Kef Reference line and the Blades are pretty amazing and lifelike sounding speakers if you drive them correctly.
Dave and TroyAudio Doctor NJ
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No Tatanya you are missing the point entirely.
Over the holiday weekend I visited a dealer in another state that has a major on line presence and I had heard they did a lot of business so I had to check out their store.
They had two sound rooms. with one being an open area with a shelf which has some monitors on it and some not too expensive amp.
Their main sound room was a crammed mess, with no room to properly demonstrate expensive speakers, the setup of electronics and sources wasn’t too good either even though they has some very good brands of gear on display, there was no forethought into what they would connect to drive the speakers.
I heard the Paradigm Personas 3F and 5F in this room and both speakers sounded good but not amazing in any way, while in our shop, the speakers sound outstanding.
We demo with only one pair of speakers on deck, use $3k speaker cables, use all high end power cables, usb, and interconnects, run all gear on power conditioning and have some light room tuning this is in our medium sound room, in our Reference room we are using state of the art gear, cabling in a room 26 by 20.
Unless you take out all the variables in demoing it is hard to know what is doing what, so your choice of B&W over KEF might have been as much to do as what you heard both speakers on.
As with anything else personal taste comes down to it.
Dave and TroyAudio Doctor NJ
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No Mr. Feil, it is called professional courtesy. We are not going to directly insult a fellow dealer, for the way they conduct their demos, however, we can mention that their setups would color the way someone who is going to hear their product and that demo may or not be up to snuff. As we have discussed previously many of the large companies, B&W, Paradigm, Martin Logan, will put on dealers that can move product or are larger custom installation houses, vs the smaller companies who tend to favor smaller more focused audio only dealers. As per bigly comes to mind, we don't know if that is a compliment or a dis. Bigly yeah we have one of the largest and most diverse collections of high end gear on the East Coast: We have 4 demo rooms, from starter to reference, including a full Home Theater. On display we have 4 $20k-$35k Reference loudpeakers, 1: the Kef Blades, 2: the Legacy Aeris, 3: Dali Epicon 8, and 4:Paradigm Persona 9H, most dealers will have one or two pairs in this price range. as well as ATC, Elac, Rethem, Dali, Kef Reference line, R series, Q series, Quad, Cabasse and others. We have some of the best equipment on display: Electronics from T+A to the tune of $50k, Naim Classic electronics stack NAC 272, NAP 300DR, XPS DR at $30k, Electrcompaniet AW 400 amps and EC preamp, Manley Steelhead phonostage/preamp and Snapper power amps, CJ ART Mono blocks and ET 5 preamp $50k stack, the Anthem STR amp and preamp, Micromega, Nuprime. Rega, Cary Audio, Sythesis audio from Italy, Unison Research and many others.. Digital from: Lumin, Aurender, Naim, T+A, Light Harmonic, Baetis, NAD, Mytek, Anthem and many others. Turntables from Rega, Merrill Wiliams and Nottingham. https://www.stereophile.com/content/audio-doctor-searching-best-everything OLD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NPIn3pEmI4 much newer https://www.facebook.com/audiodoctor1/photos/pb.122499304489958.-2207520000.1536419253./188427020831...https://www.facebook.com/audiodoctor1/photos/pb.122499304489958.-2207520000.1536419253./188426939164...https://www.facebook.com/audiodoctor1/photos/pb.122499304489958.-2207520000.1536419253./179611708379...https://www.facebook.com/audiodoctor1/photos/pb.122499304489958.-2207520000.1536419253./177461733261...https://www.facebook.com/audiodoctor1/photos/pb.122499304489958.-2207520000.1536419253./177444129596...https://www.facebook.com/audiodoctor1/photos/pb.122499304489958.-2207520000.1536419253./177443970596...https://www.facebook.com/audiodoctor1/photos/pb.122499304489958.-2207520000.1536419253./138072913200...Bigly yes we think so also so does most of the people who have visited Dave and Troy Audio Doctor NJ |
No Mr. Feil, it wasn't. Said dealer doesn't post on these forums, said dealer is selling millions of dollars of gear and we spoke to them they realized that their display isn't great either and in fact we made recommendations to them on what they can do better.
We don't have an issue with this company and so we don't want to have one with them we both sell some of the same products and they are very nice people with a terrific business model, they are 75% internet sales, we are 90% walk in sales with 10% internet.
Most of the time during these discussions the client or poster mentions where they heard the product.
As per being a professional we are. Our reputation, Google and Yelp reviews, brands carries, and the response of people who have visited our store and bought products tell our story.
Your childish behavior and antipathy towards us as well as your bragging about how many homes you have has nothing to do with audio and it demonstrates your character.
Mr. Feil, please stick to the subject at hand loudspeakers. Thank you.
Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ
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D2girls you must be kidding. Mr. Feil is attacking us so it calls into attention his motives and thus it also requires us to stipulate how and why we are different, this may come across to you as bragging but the reality is we display a lot of gear and if you had looked at the pictures we posted then it would be clear to you we can walk the walk and talk the talk because we have actual experience.
Mr. Feil is a failed no nothing dealer with a nearly unknown store that he ran in upstate NY. His product lines and his inability to show even a picture of his store, calls into attention that his experience was severely limited to a handful of lines with most not being the market leaders in their respective fields.
Perhaps he is jealous we have no idea. The point was to demonstrate that we have a real store with a large selection of products and our knowledge comes from experience with these products particularly KEF.
I don't know about you but if you look at our posts we have never called out another displaying dealer the way Mr Feil has and keeps on attacking us.
What we have said is some dealers setup system better then others and not all demos of products are going to produce glorious results when the room and matching equipment is not up to snuff especially with very high performance speakers with great resolution.
D2girls you have never set foot in our shop, nor have you ever talked with us, so in reality you know very little about what we do and how we work.
The reality is a client is flying me out to CA to tune up his system, and another gentleman is going to be visited time allowing for me to work on his system as well.
Good luck D2girls.
Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ
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We must apologize to all of the nice people on this thread especially Mountainsong.
We do not like being attacked by negative people for no known reason. GIve us a call, visit our shop and judge for yourself.
We have many people that take our advice and are very happy with the choices made.
These forum posts should not be about bashing dealers but instead by discussing products.
The only way we learn is by being exposed to products and the knowledge on how to use them.
The moderators here need to monitor these posts and create an off topic hot button, if you are not on the topic your post shouldn't be published
Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ
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D2girls are you and Bil Feil the same lame person? We have given reasons for all of the above points.
The only way you truly know anything is good is by comparing it to the know references, do you think the Ford F40 is not compared to the Ferrari and Lambos? The best products in the industry got there by raising the stakes in terms of engineering, product design and of course sound quality.
D2girls you love your Harbeths did you compare them to any other loudspeakers before you decided that the Harbeths were the best choice for you? Did you compare them with known reference products?
Every new product will always be compared to the reference leaders and only by matching them or beating them will you validate your product.
Here is my resume in the audio industry:
I was the top salesman at Sound by Singer in NYC for close to 12 years, and 3 years with Innovative Audio.
15 years at Audio Doctor.
Trained in loudspeaker setup by Dave Wilson, was taught the Sumiko method of loudspeaker setup by John Hunter. Top Wilson Audio salesman, top Transparent Audio salesman, Top Vac salesman.
Studied acoustics with Toni Grimmni, Home Theater Design with Russ Herschelman, Haptics with Keith Yates.
Designed a $500k four room professional audio setup for Tommy Boy Records, 1992, setup Quintessential Sounds mixing/listening suite 1993
Designed and fabricated Home Theater for Rev Run as seen on Rev Runs Renovation 2014, Season 2 Epsiode 9 Secret Cinema,
Did several major NY Audio Shows. 2008, 2012,2013, 2016, 2017
Numerous New York City Showhouses for major NYC Interior Designers.
You know about our store and brands and products and experience, we are all over the internet.
The point Mr. Feil we know your shop is closed, our posts come from knowledge and experience, where does your knowledge and experience come from?
We asked you to provide pictures of your closed establishment, or don’t you have any?
Your negativity speaks of pettiness and jealousy.
Your move Feil please regale us with evidence of your years of professional audio experience. I am willing to bet you will give some lame excuse why there is nearly zero evidence your business ever existed.
Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ
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Sorry Pops hate to disagree there is next to no evidence on the web to validate your claim even if Mr Feil shut down his bus three years ago there should be some proof of his store and brands.
Acoustic Zen and Atmosphere are decent products but market leaders they are not.
So Pops what did you get from Feil.
As per Blades being mediocre Kot
The speakers have been rated Class A by Stereophile as well as most of the respected press.
And Yes Blades are better then Ref 3 and 5 we have all three loudspeakers on display.
Dave and Troy
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mindlessminion,
The issue is when certain people attack others for no reason.
When you are a displaying dealer it kind of makes you an expert on that product, hence one must question the motivation of someone who has never sold that product, which then leads to the discussion of the expertise of lack of expertise of both parties.
The kind of store and the products you sell set a benchmark on to the type of dealer you are either you are an A list dealer selling the best brands of gear which are not easy to get those franchises or you are not, it is like selling Mercedes or BMW vs selling a much lesser known less respected car, that is not to say that some of these lesser known audio brands are not good, but as mentioned before there are benchmark products that many brands are going to be compared to so by having those products it does help to establish your frame of reference.
Kot thank you for your kind words you kind of have me at a disadvantage, can you PM so I know who you are? As per the Synthesis the A100T is one incredible intergraded tube amp and the built in dac is really quite good. If you have never visited our store please come in for a visit we have some really cool gear on display, including Naim reference stack, T+A gear, KEF, Dali, Paradigm, Legacy, ATC, Rethem, Quad, Cabasse speakers, CJ, Manley and so many others.
Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ
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Focal Sopra are superb, haven't heard the new Magico A3 but am I dying to,
There are very few speakers that we don't sell that we would actually would want to.
We used to sell the Scaena Line arrays mind blowing, the company was impossible to do business with the speakers were really fantastic.
Top three lines to answer you question:
1: Focal Sopra2: Scaena Line Arrays3: Magico A3 depending on voicing if they sound less sterile then when we last heard them.
Dave and TroyAudio Doctor NJ
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No Sciencecop I left just when Andy started carrying Magico
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No it wasnt me Sciencecop you are mistaking me for someone else.
I left SBS at 2004 Magico mini didnt arrive till 2008
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Mountainsong, if you are on the East Coast we might be able to get a trial pair of Blade 2 for you to try, considering we have most of the line and have a very good working relationship with KEF, we might be able to get a trial pair for you.
We have the big Blades and the Ref 5 so if you want to check either of those out that would be our pleasure.
As per the Ref 5 we have tried them in our small demo room which is 18 by 14 and they sounded magnificent, in that room, they were about 3 feet from the rear wall.
We haven't heard the new Luxman gear, we were dealers for the older Luxman gear, we did a shootout of the Luxman C800 vs the T+A PA HV preamp vs preamp the the T+A was far cleaner.
Whatever you decide we would love to be able to assist you if we can.
Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ |
Greginnh thanks for steering us back.
I have to agree with you on the Blades.
We had our Blades at the New York Audio Show 2012 at that time our ref electronics were Chord.
Our setup Blade 1 with Chord Ref monos and Pre was an expensive setup the entire system cables electronics sources racks was about 150k went down the hall heard a 400k YG Sonja Solution setup it wasnt better.
So yes a well setup pair of Blades is pretty awesome.
We are using Isoacoustics under the Blades way less expensive then Stiilpoints nearly as good.
Dave and Troy
Audiodoctor NJ |
