Integrated thingy


My first attempt at posting this didn't go over well with Audiogon. Here's another go at it...

I'm looking for a beautiful integrated amp with plenty of power (at least a 100 per side). It needs to have luscious mids, a tight bottom and spacious highs. I prefer an autoformer-based volume control like the one in ASL's Flora, but I might be able to live with a potentiometer-based volume control if this is a deal breaker. It has to have a remote. I'm done with this primitive act of getting out of my chair to change the volume. I also need a nice phono stage in there too. I don't want to be too picky, but something along the lines of a K&K, Boulder, LAMM, Aesthetix. Is there a unit with a nice analog sounding cd/dvd player in there too?

You see, I've had it with the cancer that's spreading in my living room. It started with separates, then spawned into monoblocks, then morphed into biamping with garden hose PCs and ICs and eye sores everywhere. It looks like a rats nest back there. When I started looking at DACs, it dawned on me there's no end to the madness. I don't want to audition any more cables, vintage 12AX7 or 6NS7. I just want all the parts to be designed elegantly in a beautiful container with silver wire quietly doing it's magic inside.

And my girlfriend keeps asking why I have four extra pairs of speakers in my closets. I tried to tell her that I was comparing them, but she looked puzzled with that answer. And the tweaking. Oh my god. My living room looks like a garage with soldering guns, screw drivers, capacitors and wire scattered everywhere. Thank god for dinner parties that force me to clean up once in a while.

Does anyone else share my feeling of being on an irrational journey that consumes so much time, energy and money? When does it end? Why do I need all this stuff? I remember when I had a Yamaha receiver a few years ago and everything was so simple -- one power cord and a cd player. Man, those were the days! It might not have been the best sounding rig, but it wasn't bad. Where did I go wrong?
mingles

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There's more out there than I was aware of. I appreciate all of your suggestions.

Timrhu, you're right. I'm not ready to get off the merry-go-round, but I want to start eliminating cables, boxes and clutter. That was the main focus of my rant, but I'm plagued with the desire to taste everything. It may be the only way to learn, but it's starting to feel irrational. I've gone through so many components the past few years that it seems crazy when I stop to think about it. I find myself asking, why do I have all this stuff? Is it really about the music, or is it gadget lust?

I may never know the answer to that question, but I'm close to having the sound that I've been looking for. The only problem is that it doesn't look the way I want it to. Adding to that, I hate to think about preamps. One of the main reasons I got into passives was to avoid the coloration of actives. Why add another layer of complexity to the picture when you can pass the signal through and have better control at the source, amp and speaker level? I don't want to revive that debate here, but it's a concern of mine.

I also hate cables. They're a mystery to me. They always have been. But I had to think about them with a passive. I never liked that. An integrated reduces the number I need to think about.

The Bel Canto, Plinius, YBA Passion and Linn Classik are all very interesting. The Plinius and Bel Canto look absolutely stunning. Between them, I lean toward the Plinius b/c of the power and that sexy face plate. My speakers are not efficient at 87 dB.

If I were into home theater and liked digital amps, the Meridian G95 might be something to consider, but I didn't care for the sound of NuForce 8's which are digital, so I'm hesitant to consider D class amps. That may change, but for now I have my heart set on tubes. I forgot to mention this in my original post. I'm sorry about that. It was a major oversight. I've had a few amps over the years (Parasound, McCormack, NuForce, Quicksilver, ASL) and I have to say that I prefer tubes over SS.

The VAC Phi Integrated would be at the top of my list, but the price is way beyond my reach. Retail is somewhere around $22k. My budget is no more than $3000.

I was kidding about the cd/dvd bundled inside. The phono stage isn't so important either. I'm sure I'll be experimenting with that for a long time to come, so it's best to leave it as a peripheral.

Does anyone have any experience with the Cayin A-100T. The specs look good at 100W (Ultralinear) and 50W (Triode).

Thanks again for all your thoughtful responses. -Mark
Thanks Newbee. I appreciate the info. The Cayin is more in line with what I can afford. I was trying to stay at 100 watts, but I may not get everything I want. I wonder why their website says power output is 100 watts. Are there different models?
I must have been having a bad day when I started this post. As much as I want to simplify and de-clutter, I can't imagine letting go of my amps and TVC. I really like their synergy. They offer something very warm and realistic.

However, I'm thinking about a Monarchy M24 serving as a preamp and a DAC. Lynn Olson wrote an interesting review where he said:
If you use the Linestage with the built-in [volume] control, it'll sound noticeably more closed-in, less dynamic, and less open than it really is, with just a bit of grain at the top. With an external AVC or TVC feeding the linestage, the linestage actually sounds better than the AVC or TVC by itself, and the sound quality leaps to the top of the tube-linestage league. The real giveaway is the grain—a good tubestage should never have any grain, at least with a competent power supply. Get rid of the control, the grain completely disappears, the soundstage width and depth doubles, the bass deepens, and dynamics really open up. It's not a small difference.

hmm. This would mean more clutter. How does one resist?