In Praise of the Humble Elliptical Stylus!


I bought a modern JICO SAS/B stylus replacement for my 1970s  Shure V15 Type III thinking I would be upgrading the original VN35E elliptical with unknown hours that the Ebay seller I got it from, kind of tossed in. Two years on, I keep going back to that old VN35E.

The Jico SAS with its boron cantilever and MicroRidge tip is designed to pull everything from the groove. With the Shure stylus, it doesn't feel I’m losing detail, at the same time detail isn't the point either. It seems to better capture the feeling in the room where it was recorded.  I love these old cartridges, and I’m grateful that high-quality replacements like the SAS exist. But those engineers back then were at the top of their game and seemed to have access to some powerful analog pixie dust.

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I am with you brother.  I have gone down the Jico trail too, and am happy to have the option, but there is no substitute for the real McCoy.  I wish Shure would get back in the game.

I don’t know about JICO on a Shure, but the soundsmith OCL stylus on my Grace Ruby is a big improvement over the OEM elliptical. I have one of each, a stock Ruby and an OCL Ruby, so I can compare on the same system. One could argue that the elliptical might be worn compared to the OCL.

Here, here, I love elliptical stylii. Try giving conical a spin as well VN35G. Great stuff, and another flavor.

The VN35G was not on my radar! thanks for that @viridian! I have been searching hard for a VN35HE or maybe VN35MR but the ones that pop up on Ebay are pricey! 

I have a VN35HE, but not the MR. The HE is an excellent stylus for the V15iii. Highly recommended.

Many, many years ago (perhaps 1975ish) the VN35G won a shoot out at an audiophile meet in San Diego attended by all the local golden ears.  It surprised everybody except Dr. Fulton of Fulton J fame who conducted the ceremony.  Another surprise was the then new B&O cartridge line.  

Way back when I was in audio sales and purchased a Philips AF 877 turntable and a Shure V15 Type V cartridge at employee prices. My nostalgia brain remembers that combo as a very smooth sounding without excessive treble roll off. 

If I remember correctly, the Type V was advertised as having an "hyper-elliptical" stylus. Does anyone know if that was similar to the Shibata or the Microline styli profiles that were just coming into vogue, at the time?

It was a precursor to the microline style more so than to the Shibata, which was a more complex shape originally developed for 4 channel use.  The idea was the same, though, which was to increase the contact area between the stylus and the groove wall.

I just switched from my $1500 Goldring Ethos SE MC cart with a micro ridge stylus to my Stanton 680 EL and have to say the heavy-tracking Stanton isn’t that far behind. The Goldring sounds fantastic with everything I’ve thrown at it. But with 60s/70s rock, the Stanton sounds more alive. Such a great elliptical.