Help me understand John Coltrane .... seriously.

jaredpurdy,

You told him and in what way.

You rock!

I mean, You Jazz!

skyscraper,

Any way that you can write a manual how to stay classy and simple in every conversation?

It is a good thread, indeed.

bdp24,

I tried Ornette Coleman, after your mention, on the youtube last night. Thanks, I do have to say I like it much more than John Coltrane music I have heard. I may be going backwards, it seems.

"...I've been listening to a jazz group that I was sure was totally lost regarding the form, only to have them suddenly come back together and prove me wrong."

Are you right about being wrong, or they just could not keep it up all the time and found their form from time to time?

"Progressives use a lot of atonality, which can sound like they're playing the wrong notes, and they also don't strictly observe things like rhythm and meter."

Hmmmm, that explains it.

When it comes to the instruments of wind, I found out that masters at Guča Festival play no second fiddle to those we mention here.

Unless you truly dread it for non-musical reasons, which you will not after about an hour of following the festival routine, you will never have to convince yourself why you like it. It is exactly the opposite from the mystery of the dim room loneliness with a glass of an expensive drink in hand.

"...I feel, strongly, that what we think of as just who WE are is learned."

John Erik Locke! Tabula rasa auditoria.

efort,

"Sit in the dark listen to love supreme and you’ll get it"

Trying, after many years, right now. I hope I catch it.

erik_squires,

"Also, don't make this weird."

No worries, I took your advice literally.

erik_squires,

Have you ever figured Frank Sinatra out? That one is a mystery to me on the level of John Coltrane to you.

skyscraper,

Now when you mentioned it, have you ever bought Let It Bleed SACD? It was a topic from many months ago.

So many comments about Coltrane "not being an easy listen" or "taking time to digest", or something in that direction. It seems that many like to work hard.

I enjoy Kind Of Blue, not too often, own A Love Supreme (I tried, at least), and tried to convince myself there is something to other Miles Davis’ albums and that A Love Supreme is really great. Eventually, I admitted to myself I am a peasant who likes some other things more.

One of them being Tenor Madness by Sonny Rollins mentioned in the post above.