Has anyone used the new Innuos 2.0 Sense music app? Compared it to Roon?


I compared the two as I am a lifetime Roon customer.  I prefer the sound of the new Innuos Sense music app.  More natural and less electronic or digital sounding.  Not day and night, but better. My big issue is Innuos Sense does not seem to keep playing music, like Roon, when the album is complete.  Roon had a Radio switch that played artists similar to the artist as a continuous stream and I loved it.  Heard many new artists I loved this way.  
Anyone know if Innuos Sense has a similar setting? I can’t seem to find it. 
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@grannyring  --- does the new Innuos 2.0 Sense work with Innuos as a server only, or server + streamer, when connected directly to DAC via USB? Sorry, I no longer have any Innuos to try.

In other words, would it work with a separate DAC that has a network bridge built in, with no direct connection to Innuos? As a Roon user, you perhaps know what I mean. Thank you
Hi @grannyring --- thank you for your posts. You answered my questions. Enjoy!
If 9,000 albums represents 0.04% of your audio collection, you have a total of 22,500,000 albums??!!! Are you sure. Over twenty million albums?? Wow! I find this impossible
Still.... you have 2,250,000 music albums? that's two and quarter million albums

I tried Sense yesterday and today for the first time (Zenith MK3):

1) SQ wise I hear no difference Sense vs. Roon on Zenith. In fact, Roon kinda sound a bit better to my ears, just a bit “fuller” more fleshed out. Maybe I am doing something wrong

 

2) Interface: while Sense is better than I thought it would be, it still has a long way to catch up with Roon. I can name at least a dozen of functions I often use with my Roon that are not available with Sense.

 

I am switching back to Roon. And the Squeezelite experimental Roon works almost flawlessly now, and sounds glorious. I am sure Sense will continue to improve and evolve. I will check every future Sense software release. Easy to switch back and forth 

@grannyring : I just got the Zenith brand new the other day, and yes, I made sure it had the most current 2.0.8 version (it did).

 

As you said, everything is subjective, we all hear and like differently.

@arafiq I still have the Nucleus + as the main Roon Core. Switched the Core to Zenith yesterday, and will see. If it works fine the next few weeks with no hiccups , I will likely keep the Core on Zenith. Nucleus is rock solid for what it does, very stable, never loses network connection, and super fast loading, but eventually it does not make sense for me to keep two cores. I do NOT use DSP. 

 

This is my second foray with Innuos. Just because I was curious on Sense. I switched my Zenith MK3 to a static IP in my network. From my first experience with Innuos, they tend to be a bit finicky with networks, so hopefully this will keep it stable.

@arafiq You will have to enable Squeezebox support on Roon first under Settings, then Setup. A small toggle In button down below on the list.

 

‘’Then again on Roon Settings, under Audio, disable what shows under “connected to Core” uptop, then enable the device that shows under “Squeezebox “ logo.

I wish I could post screenshots here

You are welcome @arafiq 

 

I don’t think you can do native DSD with Squeezebox via Roon. You can however do DoP (DSD via PCM )

 

Go to Settings on Roon, then Audio, select your Zenith under Squeezebox, Device Setup little icon to the right, switch on DSD playback strategy 

Hi @arafiq 

 

When you use Zenith as Roon Core, do you also use it as a streamer? In other words, USB out from your Zenith to your DAC?

 

I terms of copying your music in your SonicTransporter to the internal SSD in your Zenith, you do it via the InnuOS interface (switch Roon toggle button off first). Leave the SonicTransport in the network. Then use the “NAS” import method via InnuOS. 

This will copy what is in SonicTransport without touching what is already in the Zenith. Once all this complete, you can switch back to Roon

No DSP with Innuos Sense. Period.

 

May I ask, why do you NEED DSP? Headphone user?

No chance you can manage the bass output on subwoofer level? On the crossovers? or must it happen on the digital source level for some reason?