Has Anyone Uesed A PrimaLuna Amp With Harbeth Speaker's

I was personally underwhelmed with the PL Dialogue Premium when I finally got to audition it with my speakers. Harbeth bass tends to be slow and underdamped so why would you want to add to that issue with an amp that is not very good at controlling those woofers. The Dialogue I heard was well broken in and had warmed up for at least 45 minutes and the bass was close to MIA. The bass I could hear was slow and mushy compared to the various other SS and tube amps I've auditioned. The end.

Yes, I did demo the Dialogue Premium at a dealer. I can't remember which taps we used. 

bigred71

Take your speakers over or even better try to get a home audition.

boazro 1

The Croft Phono is a GREAT little integrated! very musical.

I've now heard from one current dealer and and another former dealer that say PL sound nice but the QC is not the greatest. One said he sells both Rogue and PL and the Rogue is built more consistently. They both said that there are a high number, relatively speaking, of PL warranty claims compared to others like Rogue. 

I trust the folks that sell them day in and day out and are not biased. Thanks Kevin.

I don't really have an agenda  to fulfill just making sure everybody's aware of what I've heard. I can give you my source if you'd like. He is a good dealer and he said he would tell Kevin to his face the same things that he said to me when I called him and asked him advice on Prima Luna versus Rogue since he sells both and likes both.

I am very glad to hear from owners that have had no issues. PL is still not my cup of tea, but I respect what they do. I honestly had no agenda and just thought it was odd and perhaps more than coincidence that the 2 dealers I spoke to both mentioned the same thing, but maybe not.

Perhaps if I decide to go back the full tube route I will take a listen again. I have not had very positive experiences talking to Kevin Deal in the past. Not the nicest person to me on the phone. 

I just honestly don't think Harbbies need tubes, they have kind of a tubey sound already built in IMO. 

No, Kevin Deal IS PL.

I just heard the m30.1 and shl5 today powered by a Blue Circle SS integrated and the combo was fantastic. My preference would be ss or hybrid.

well, he may be in terms of a designer but Kevin is really the face and voice of Primaluna, unfortunately for some of us.

yep, this thread is a good example of the "straight shooter" character you speak so highly of:
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/very-bad-purchase-from-upscale-audio-acoustic-zen-adagio